jewsare not a race. Just another religious cult.
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Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:28,
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are you angry at everything?
yanmania... last shagged your mum on,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:29,
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I'm not angry at anything.I just prefer things to be factually correct.
I am quite annoyed at religion per se but that's because it is halting the progress of civilisation.
(I am quite annoyed at religion per se but that's because it is halting the progress of civilisation.
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:31,
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I just feel that religionand of course the intolerance to others of differing opinions is stifling the progression of humanity. If we could just ignore it and get on then things would be better. The sooner we are all brown and put superstitious nonsense in the past the sooner we will be able to progress as a species.
( Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:40,
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'jewish' = race'judaism' = religion
( yanmania... last shagged your mum on,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:34,
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No,Jewish = Someone who practises Judaism.
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:36,
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no..unfortunately, with my people.. it's not like that
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My Ass Is On Fire due to constant gas leak,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:45,
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Incorrect.Jewish simply means one of the jewish faith.
Jews can be of any race as it is a choice. I can become jewish tomorrow. Being Caucasian I would have a slight problem becoming Asian tomorrow.
If you want jews to be a race of home sapien ( which is impossible of course, as religious choice has nothing to do with genetic make-up ) then you would have to allow that Catholics, Muslims and Shintoists were also a race.
(Jews can be of any race as it is a choice. I can become jewish tomorrow. Being Caucasian I would have a slight problem becoming Asian tomorrow.
If you want jews to be a race of home sapien ( which is impossible of course, as religious choice has nothing to do with genetic make-up ) then you would have to allow that Catholics, Muslims and Shintoists were also a race.
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:38,
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http://www.b3ta.com/board/8839905 yanmania... last shagged your mum on,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:39,
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Nouns can refer to more than one thing. (eg. Jewish race, Jewish religion)Also, other words can mean more than one thing, and AMAZINGLY more than one meaning can be correct.
In this case, race has more meanings than the scientific meaning.
Now we know that you've studied something at school, but do be a dear and don't do the common thing of assuming that your piece of domain specific knowledge means that you are the worlds authority on all related, or *apparently related* in this case, matters.
You're the only one here specifying races in the biological classification sense of the word.
(In this case, race has more meanings than the scientific meaning.
Now we know that you've studied something at school, but do be a dear and don't do the common thing of assuming that your piece of domain specific knowledge means that you are the worlds authority on all related, or *apparently related* in this case, matters.
You're the only one here specifying races in the biological classification sense of the word.
slight yoinks!,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 15:14,
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I apologise for ruffling your feathers.I just fail to see how anybody educated can confuse ethnicity ( which is social ) race ( which is genetic )
you can't argue that arab/armenid hybrids are the same as northern Europeans yet they are both the majority make up of the Jewish.
Even Israel's law of return defines a jew as "Definition 4B. For the purposes of this Law, "Jew" means a person who was born of a Jewish mother or has become converted to Judaism and who is not a member of another religion." which means that I can convert and go live in Israel as a Jew in whatever time period that process takes. But I remain Caucasian ( if somewhat brainwashed )
(you can't argue that arab/armenid hybrids are the same as northern Europeans yet they are both the majority make up of the Jewish.
Even Israel's law of return defines a jew as "Definition 4B. For the purposes of this Law, "Jew" means a person who was born of a Jewish mother or has become converted to Judaism and who is not a member of another religion." which means that I can convert and go live in Israel as a Jew in whatever time period that process takes. But I remain Caucasian ( if somewhat brainwashed )
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 15:25,
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But I'm not talking about genetics or Israeli lawI'm talking about language. Race is not just genetic, that's only one definition. Go and look at the OED definition, that's the closest thing we have to an official language reference, and it's very clear.
( slight yoinks!,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 16:34,
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hate to disagree old chap but....www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/race_2?view=uk
"3. a group of people sharing the same culture, language, etc.; an ethnic group."
Of course not all people who are members of the Jewish religion can be called members of the Jewish race.
("3. a group of people sharing the same culture, language, etc.; an ethnic group."
Of course not all people who are members of the Jewish religion can be called members of the Jewish race.
slight yoinks!,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:38,
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That's a viewof etymology and not science.
and I re-iterate, if you can be a race of jews you can be a race of catholics based upon the same criteria
(and I re-iterate, if you can be a race of jews you can be a race of catholics based upon the same criteria
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:42,
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if you want the scientific viewthere is evidence that seperate groiups of jewish peopl around the world have a common genetic history
EDIT: actually just ask My Ass Is On Fire... he'll know
(EDIT: actually just ask My Ass Is On Fire... he'll know
yanmania... last shagged your mum on,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:48,
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Of course there is.Because they are arabs.
The idea of being Jewish came from a group of two separate cultural groups, one Egyptian and one Canaanite ( Jordanian ) who shared a religious view that was not tolerated where they lived and so they moved ( widely accepted as the seeds of the exodus story ) into Palestine in order to escape religious intolerance and of course just stirred up more. So Jews who are arabs share a genetic trait. The same as the Caucasian jews from Northern European stock do, but neither are of the same racial stock.
(The idea of being Jewish came from a group of two separate cultural groups, one Egyptian and one Canaanite ( Jordanian ) who shared a religious view that was not tolerated where they lived and so they moved ( widely accepted as the seeds of the exodus story ) into Palestine in order to escape religious intolerance and of course just stirred up more. So Jews who are arabs share a genetic trait. The same as the Caucasian jews from Northern European stock do, but neither are of the same racial stock.
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:52,
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btwi saw your little flounce a while back
( yanmania... last shagged your mum on,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:58,
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What?I don't do flouncing. I do trolling for personal entertainment.
And if you have given up arguing anthropology with me ( which is a good idea ) then you may fuck off because outside of debate I'm not willing to converse with you given the vile abuse you have subjected me to in the past.
(And if you have given up arguing anthropology with me ( which is a good idea ) then you may fuck off because outside of debate I'm not willing to converse with you given the vile abuse you have subjected me to in the past.
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 15:04,
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haha you keep bringing that upbut youve let to tell me what it was
( yanmania... last shagged your mum on,
Thu 16 Oct 2008, 15:05,
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