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# Hang on a sec
The Taliban (a fanatical bunch of extreme religious cunts subjugating the female half of their population, and other ethnic minorities, and imposing their medieval ideology), were harboring the prime suspects to an act of mass-murder and refused to hand them over

The very nature of their regime was repugnant enough to depose it with military force, if that alone isn't reason enough

I'm far from being a neocon right wing type (I have voted Labour in general elections three times), but unlike Iraq, that was seriously good riddance on a legitimate point; except we couldn't slaughter enough of them as they fled

(, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:19, archived)
# well put
(, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:21, archived)
# Taliban were bad: agree
That lasting good can come from armed conflict: disagree
(, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:21, archived)
# i have in my hand a piece of paper
well done prime minster, hitler won't dare invade poland now
(, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:24, archived)
# kinda caught betwixt 2 extremes
the taliban and bush

and i dont like either. and both use religion as a tool
(, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:25, archived)
# you said tool
*titter*
(, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:41, archived)
# I hope you are not on about Iraq
the second time around because sending us back there was criminal. First time was legitimate and yes, we should have finished the job ten. I was 15 miles from Baghdad and it annoys me to this day. But what has gone on since makes me sickened to have been associated with it.
(, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:26, archived)
# I could not agree more
Politicians and their games, at the expense of real human life
(, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:31, archived)
# "harboring the prime suspects to an act of mass-murder and refused to hand them over"
For about a week or something before war was declared.

"The very nature of their regime was repugnant enough to depose it with military force, if that alone isn't reason enough"

That would be the regime essentially put in place by the States yeah? Is that the one you mean?

Bin Laden was a great excuse for an action in Afghanistan, it'd been brewing for some time.

www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/jir/jir010315_1_n.shtml
(, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:46, archived)
# That regime came about because of the cold war, something I suspect a lot of you are to young to have been there
it wasn't nice living day in day out with the acute threat of nuclear armageddon; but then on I think it get's a little more complicated than pasted links from websites I can't be arsed to click on that might support your view of things
(, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:58, archived)
# I may not be as young as you think old man.
It did not come about because of the cold war, that's a complete cop-out. The US funded and supported the Taliban as a proxy against Russia, and that's why they were in power.

The link is about the fact that there was already a concerted, international as it happens, effort against the Taliban before Sep 11. Russia, India, Iran(!) and the US were supporting the northern alliance against the Taliban. Sep 11 gave certain people in the US the excuse they'd wanted for some time to step in and make some changes they'd been having to pussy foot around up to that point.

Incidentally you're a patronising twat.
(, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 22:15, archived)