
I AM OUTRAGED! BLAME THE SCAPEGOATS AT ONCE!
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:05,
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it uses the words "meat" not describing the meat at all, but doign a little research it is for goat :)
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:16,
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goat curry needs scotch bonnets, HP sauce and all the usual trimmings. cook slow. dont serve on first date.
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:19,
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and in which thousands of people have lost their lives.
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:06,
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guess that makes it all worth it
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:07,
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i think someone needed to act
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:09,
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I'd better read the daily mail
the voice of britain!
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:12,
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the voice of britain!

let me explain
the bad guys are the ones who are not like us
we of course are right
see - its quite simple
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:14,
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the bad guys are the ones who are not like us
we of course are right
see - its quite simple

but i doubt you will bother doing that
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:16,
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to visit a country where people blow themselves up on a regular basis.
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:18,
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Because it's not like that at all.
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:24,
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see that were welcoming the fact that they still have worse reliability in the utilities they had pre-war and welcoming of the troops that are clearing IED's from their patrol routes daily?
Just because the Yanks have awarded contracts to their ailing construction industry in order to make the capital look good for journalists does not mean the country is benefiting. Why have they not rebuilt Kajak as promised? That would do the single best thing for the countries infrastructure than making hotels and electricity in the capital.
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:33,
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Just because the Yanks have awarded contracts to their ailing construction industry in order to make the capital look good for journalists does not mean the country is benefiting. Why have they not rebuilt Kajak as promised? That would do the single best thing for the countries infrastructure than making hotels and electricity in the capital.

fibre optic broadband will also be supplied soon
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:39,
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not at all. I don't want to argue with you Mongy, I've said before and I'm happy to say it again, I like you but I feel that people need to be careful with their opinions about these things especially when they are based more upon what propaganda they can read rather than the true state of affairs. Afghanistan was a lost cause 6 years ago and has not progressed on a national level since.
I see it from a soldier's view and it's really, really upsetting. People laugh and joke ( and are often quite insulting ) about me and how angry I get. Seriously, is it any wonder I and thousands of others are fucked up because of this? And we are the lucky ones.
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:49,
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I see it from a soldier's view and it's really, really upsetting. People laugh and joke ( and are often quite insulting ) about me and how angry I get. Seriously, is it any wonder I and thousands of others are fucked up because of this? And we are the lucky ones.



Let's invade Zimababwe, Saudia Arabia, Democratic Republic of Congo etc etc
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:11,
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why dont cold places have wars?
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:15,
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They also used to push walls over onto Gay people.How weird is that? Guess it beats a 0-0 draw at Doncaster away on a Tuesday night
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:12,
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That'll show those heathen bastards how to be civilised.
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:15,
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^this, I love the way students talk and shout loudly about life as if they know all about it when they are still at fucking school
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:21,
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Whereas in reality they just spout a different flavour of bollocks.
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:33,
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are you saying that older people can't enjoy further education? you sicken me, you huguenot
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:35,
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I will grant you though that some don't seem to heed any of this
www.b3ta.com/board/8845840
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:37,
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www.b3ta.com/board/8845840

Doesn't mean to say their experience is a good one, doesn't mean to say they are not selfish or racist. It does not mean anything.
If anything I'd say I've seen more people who count getting older and having family as justification to fuck over any other race, minority or class to keep their own unit in well heeled shoes.
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:48,
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If anything I'd say I've seen more people who count getting older and having family as justification to fuck over any other race, minority or class to keep their own unit in well heeled shoes.

As its nobody's fucking business how a sovereign state does it's business. Taliban made themselves a target by allying themselves to Al Quaeda and given that the Yanks can't operate without retribution ( regardless of who actually takes the ass-whooping, as long as there is an ass-whooping ) then this whole sorry business started.
I'm sure that your intentions about women and oppression are all good and to be commended but you have to be clear that was never, ever the reason for the troops going in. The only reason it started is because Osama holed up there.
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:17,
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I'm sure that your intentions about women and oppression are all good and to be commended but you have to be clear that was never, ever the reason for the troops going in. The only reason it started is because Osama holed up there.

let everyone just do what they want, pol pot can be an example for all
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:19,
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you're going to lose your edge. I'm concerned about you.
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:21,
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this crap for NATO and the Yanks for 10 years.
And yes, you might as well scrap Nato because it is a useless entity. nato acts where America wants it to. As mentioned above there are much worse regimes in operation today that violate human rights, ignore NATO sanctions and nothing is don. Isreal have been ignoring a multitude of NATO sanctions since the 50's and nothing is ever done yet they have a vile human rights record and are still an occupying nation..
So yes, let people do what they want unless you are prepared to police the world and not just the bits that will improve your economy back home.
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:23,
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And yes, you might as well scrap Nato because it is a useless entity. nato acts where America wants it to. As mentioned above there are much worse regimes in operation today that violate human rights, ignore NATO sanctions and nothing is don. Isreal have been ignoring a multitude of NATO sanctions since the 50's and nothing is ever done yet they have a vile human rights record and are still an occupying nation..
So yes, let people do what they want unless you are prepared to police the world and not just the bits that will improve your economy back home.

not to mention that they also kicked the Russian Army out too during the 80's
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:09,
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The Taliban (a fanatical bunch of extreme religious cunts subjugating the female half of their population, and other ethnic minorities, and imposing their medieval ideology), were harboring the prime suspects to an act of mass-murder and refused to hand them over
The very nature of their regime was repugnant enough to depose it with military force, if that alone isn't reason enough
I'm far from being a neocon right wing type (I have voted Labour in general elections three times), but unlike Iraq, that was seriously good riddance on a legitimate point; except we couldn't slaughter enough of them as they fled
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:19,
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The very nature of their regime was repugnant enough to depose it with military force, if that alone isn't reason enough
I'm far from being a neocon right wing type (I have voted Labour in general elections three times), but unlike Iraq, that was seriously good riddance on a legitimate point; except we couldn't slaughter enough of them as they fled

That lasting good can come from armed conflict: disagree
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:21,
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well done prime minster, hitler won't dare invade poland now
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:24,
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the taliban and bush
and i dont like either. and both use religion as a tool
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:25,
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and i dont like either. and both use religion as a tool

the second time around because sending us back there was criminal. First time was legitimate and yes, we should have finished the job ten. I was 15 miles from Baghdad and it annoys me to this day. But what has gone on since makes me sickened to have been associated with it.
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:26,
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Politicians and their games, at the expense of real human life
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:31,
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For about a week or something before war was declared.
"The very nature of their regime was repugnant enough to depose it with military force, if that alone isn't reason enough"
That would be the regime essentially put in place by the States yeah? Is that the one you mean?
Bin Laden was a great excuse for an action in Afghanistan, it'd been brewing for some time.
www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/jir/jir010315_1_n.shtml
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:46,
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"The very nature of their regime was repugnant enough to depose it with military force, if that alone isn't reason enough"
That would be the regime essentially put in place by the States yeah? Is that the one you mean?
Bin Laden was a great excuse for an action in Afghanistan, it'd been brewing for some time.
www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/jir/jir010315_1_n.shtml

it wasn't nice living day in day out with the acute threat of nuclear armageddon; but then on I think it get's a little more complicated than pasted links from websites I can't be arsed to click on that might support your view of things
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:58,
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It did not come about because of the cold war, that's a complete cop-out. The US funded and supported the Taliban as a proxy against Russia, and that's why they were in power.
The link is about the fact that there was already a concerted, international as it happens, effort against the Taliban before Sep 11. Russia, India, Iran(!) and the US were supporting the northern alliance against the Taliban. Sep 11 gave certain people in the US the excuse they'd wanted for some time to step in and make some changes they'd been having to pussy foot around up to that point.
Incidentally you're a patronising twat.
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Fri 17 Oct 2008, 22:15,
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The link is about the fact that there was already a concerted, international as it happens, effort against the Taliban before Sep 11. Russia, India, Iran(!) and the US were supporting the northern alliance against the Taliban. Sep 11 gave certain people in the US the excuse they'd wanted for some time to step in and make some changes they'd been having to pussy foot around up to that point.
Incidentally you're a patronising twat.