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# what are they censoring ?
(I helped save b3ta! Dr Scunner She’s a he, technically, but she’s scalding hot, Wed 3 Dec 2008, 19:43, archived)
# They alter the view counts of most politically-related videos.
This can be seen very clearly on the one above.

Views: 13,665 - Impossible it's gone viral worldwide, plus the guy has 36,000 subscribers.

Text Comments: 2,054
Views: 13,665 - This ratio to comments is insane.
(I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Wed 3 Dec 2008, 19:45, archived)
# Is that despite the fact that the whole purpose of the video
is to get people to comment on it?
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Wed 3 Dec 2008, 19:49, archived)
# It can't be seen at all from that link
views - 13,665 to comments 2054 - so?
does there have to be a strict ratio figure before it passes from the realm of 'accepted true viewings' to 'suspected tampered viewing fiugures'?
And how 'viral' has this gone exactly? For my two penneth I've not seen or heard about it until now, and from what I've seen, you've only linked to it today on b3ta.

Show me proof that they doctor comments, or at the very least, give me a backed up evidential argument before
coming out with phrases that suggest you know for certain they do this.
Sources please fella - you know we like 'em :)
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 3 Dec 2008, 19:52, archived)
# the problem is that youtube really does lock the viewing totals on videos
you'll see the occasional video that has comments consisting of

person1: it's at 15325
person2: it's still at 15325
person3: wtf it's at 15325
person4: it's 15325...

for hundreds of people

some folk get twitchy when they see stuff like that
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 3 Dec 2008, 19:54, archived)
# Ahhh, I see.
Youtube is life. Youtube is reason to get upset.
At. The. Internet.
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 3 Dec 2008, 19:56, archived)
# no, not at all
I think that something selling itself as a great opt in community that basically is full of shit is what annoys people.

it doesn't matter if it's in print, online, or what someone told you in the pub if it's demonstrably full of crap people do have a right to get upset, but I guess if it's on the internet as it's just pretend, oh well guess it's not worthy of any kind of note at all.



(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 3 Dec 2008, 20:03, archived)
# But hasn't there always been a delay
at times for stats updating?

That doesn't necessarily mean they are holding it down....
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Wed 3 Dec 2008, 20:00, archived)
# ah well
as long as folk click on the adverts :)
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 3 Dec 2008, 20:06, archived)
# Look at the 'Honors' on the video. Plus the other stuff I mentioned, oop there
Yes, that ratio is abnormal.

Plus several comments are being deleted on that very video, and not offensive ones.

Right, back to it.
(I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Wed 3 Dec 2008, 19:55, archived)
# pretty much everything
apart from blatant and prosecutable copyright violations

oddly
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 3 Dec 2008, 19:46, archived)