It was proved recently that plants DO display stress and traumawhen chopped etc...so that kind of fucks this whole bizarre 'don't want them to suffer' thing.
Unnecessary suffering=why?!
Every existing creature=has to eat
(Unnecessary suffering=why?!
Every existing creature=has to eat
Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions,
Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:31,
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pfftI'd love to see a moral vegetarian's reaction to the stress incurred by plants. :D
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drbroon abloooobloobloo,
Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:33,
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Anaesthetising a marrow, and then trying to swallow it whole?
IHaveABadFeelingAboutThis most likely working from home on,
Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:47,
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Even if plants could suffer as much as animals,we still need to eat them to survive. We don't need to eat much if any meat, so minimising meat in the diet still reduces unnecessary suffering.
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Bob Todd whee,
Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:39,
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We need to eat both to be healthyLuckily the healthiest balance is more veg/fruit and less meat, but that's what I aim for anyway. Eating all meat or all veg is just not what we're designed for
( Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions,
Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:44,
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I beg to differ.I've been vegan for five years and haven't had any health problems stemming from it. I've had my blood checked to make sure I've still got all the normal levels of everything.
I bet the Inuit (or whoever it is that eats only raw meat) would beg to differ as well. Human bodies are very adaptable.
(I bet the Inuit (or whoever it is that eats only raw meat) would beg to differ as well. Human bodies are very adaptable.
Bob Todd whee,
Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:48,
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Yeah, I edited the 'ill' thing off because it causes such controversyWhat I really meant was 'in my experience and therefore opinion it leads to health problems' but I realised that I really, really don't want to get into a debate and need to get off the board anyway.
Your diet is your own business anyway, I currently eat way too many meals out due to a generally lazy lifestyle, that's pretty bad for me but I'd object to anyone other than my doctor telling me to change
(Your diet is your own business anyway, I currently eat way too many meals out due to a generally lazy lifestyle, that's pretty bad for me but I'd object to anyone other than my doctor telling me to change
Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions,
Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:53,
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I aim for 'minimise suffering to the fullest extent that your circumstances and sanity permit'.People in developing countries can't very well go vege, because they don't have access to as big a range of foods as we do. People in semi-deserts can't either, because there is no fucking vegetation where they live. And I did eat fish last time I went to France, because they just plain don't understand the concept of veganism.
I also take prescription meds which have a gelatine coating - I need the meds, and there isn't a non-gelatine-coated version available.
(I also take prescription meds which have a gelatine coating - I need the meds, and there isn't a non-gelatine-coated version available.
Bob Todd whee,
Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:58,
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Very similar to meexcept I've decided on the other side of the divide due to other considerations.
Anyway, I'm off now but I've just realised why your name is purple, I really like your demon pics. Pretty sure I've told you that before but it can't hurt to be reminded ;)
(Anyway, I'm off now but I've just realised why your name is purple, I really like your demon pics. Pretty sure I've told you that before but it can't hurt to be reminded ;)
Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions,
Tue 9 Dec 2008, 13:05,
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