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# I only ask
as when (and I'm really not blowing my own trumpet here, i was lucky enought have the opportunaty to do it so i did) I was doing my MA in fine art, i regularly had my work, and me, taken to little pieces, chewed up and spat out. The result is i can critique a work if you would like me too. But it requires you to speak about it too. it's quite difficult when you've only just started it. i can see that you are making decisions about the form to some schemea or other. but i can't at this stage determine whether you are trying to find something out about something in particular, regarding the form alone, or if there is some other investigation going on. it makes me feel slightly claustriphobic. Or reminds me of a gastric band. I hope that is a start and i don't get my arsed flamed off for being a big 'ed.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 18:11, archived)
# I don't think I would be allowed at a Fine Art crit, having hung out with a few art students.
the sheer volume of complete shit being spoken by a large majority of the crowd would drive me into apoplectic rage within minutes.

I'd rather just show my work to the half dozen people whose feet were close enough to the ground to offer sensible advice.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 18:20, archived)
# Actually I'd guess on the MA you'd have mostly people who are there for the right reasons
so it'd probably be more relevant.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 18:21, archived)
# that's the point about post grad
it costs a fucking fortune to do and you have to take a day off work every week to do it. the twats get exposed very quickly and fuck off. then you have a serious sensible dicussion about your work. it hurts but i'm a much better artist for it.
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 18:23, archived)
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The heart shape (or ribcage, as it has been likened to) was a sketch of an image I saw of how the lung forms a giant cell around foreign objects under the microscope, but from there I started drawing the adjoining lines from different angles, i.e I'd turn the paper over on its side so it looked like something else, and draw that (although I was always concious that the 'correct way up' would be portrait like it is in the photo.
I wanted it to look alien, like a plant or tendon - definitely organic, and used a yellow background because I planned to use an off-world sunset as a background - well, the colours of one (I think celestial objects would detract from what is going on in the foreground, and make it look too much like what I have intended it to be - although I still want it to be open to interpretation as something else to the viewer)
I'm not aware of trying to investigate anything, although if any investigation was done, I'd say it was to do with perspective - making the lines meet as they go round and behind and across each other.
I appreciate your comments, Thanks.


(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 18:21, archived)
# Well I'd disagree
you are definitely investigating something. Hence the paper turning. also you are substituting the actual object for something else, there is a name for this but it escapes me, making decisions about the object based on a set of rules only you know. this is right and proper. The idea of making the lines meet is fairly uninteresting (i really do not mean this in a derisory manner). i have found the cluastrphobia and gastric banding ideas within your image, which are quite interesting. I'd be interested to see how it develops. I hope I haven't offended but you did ask #:o)
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 18:34, archived)
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You haven't offended me at all :o)
My intention was for it to look like an alien plant, and I wanted it to have a bit of character - often when I draw, I mix technology with organic (i.e circuit boards etc) - I wanted this to be all organic - and I wanted people to get lost inside it - the original is on A3 paper.
I'll remember not to tell people that 'I wanted to make the lines meet' in future ;) Cheers for the heads up! Nobody likes an uninteresting artist , heh heh heh
I will post any updates I make to it :)
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 18:54, archived)
# I look forward to seeing them
#:o)
(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 18:55, archived)