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# *grumble, grumble*
*context... grumble, grumble... wait for all the facts... grumble grumble...*
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 14:34, archived)
# In what context is it appropriate to push someone to the floor from behind?
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 14:36, archived)
# In an slapstick context
Comedy trombone optional
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 14:37, archived)
# Ah yes.
Someone forgot to order the entertainment for the protest, so the friendly police stepped in to fill the gap.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 14:39, archived)
# The police are advancing on the crowd
Are they telling the crowd to get back?
Is this man ignoring them?
How has he found himself at the front of a crowd of protesters if he's just walking home?

There is no information about this video other than it's turned up, most websites/news programs have edited it to fit the slot and there's no information about where/when/what was happening.

Yet everyone is perfectly happy to draw their own conclusions and have already sent the officers to the stocks.
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 14:41, archived)
# I haven't drawn conclusions.
I'm struggling to come up with an excuse for those kinds of actions though.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 14:44, archived)
# How about...
the heightened sense of fear on the side of the police that they were outnumbered by people lobbing bottles at them?
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 15:31, archived)
# That doesn't justify assault.
I don't think the Police would look kindly on someone pushing over a random person because they're scared of a general situation.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 15:33, archived)
# Does it matter
Does marching give them the right to push someone?
Does shouting give them the right to push someone?
Does being ignored give them the right to push someone?
(funkatron, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 15:10, archived)
# You're talking like this guy was walking through London's streets on any given day
He wasn't. It was the middle of a protest which was, at times, violent. It's not like he was merrily walking along an empty street and the police set upon him
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 15:33, archived)
# Not to worry, the police will do a typically thorough internal investigation
and decide pushing a random bloke on his face and causing him to die of a heart attack even tho he was walking away from them with his hands in his pockets, then initially lying about it until a film of the event surfaced, was entirely justifiable considering what a great job they do protecting the public and upholding the law...
(I helped save b3ta! ..wil, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 14:40, archived)
# whoa nelly! let's not be too damning just yet
it hasn't been confirmed that the police caused the heart attack. Granted, it may well be a contributory factor, but it's not fact - yet.
from what I heard it was 10 minutes after this event he actually died from a heart attack. And having a heart attack isn't a 'sudden' thing. The way he was walking/wandering beforehand suggests he may not have been feeling all that well prior to the push. It 'could' have possibly been starting prior to the push, and the push 'may' have exacerbated the situation.
It's unfortunate in any case, and that push was certainly not warranted in the situation, BUT, it may not have been the main contributory factor in the cause of death, that has yet to be determined.
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 14:55, archived)
# interesting post here
www.liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/08/spot-the-difference/
(I helped save b3ta! beaubodor blogless, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 14:59, archived)
# Well lets put it this way,
not one of their finest moments...
(I helped save b3ta! ..wil, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 15:15, archived)
# that's kind of where I was going :)
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 15:29, archived)
# either that
or they'll announce he was wearing a large coat, and ran when questioned.
(I helped save b3ta! Finite "Aardvark sorted out my shit!" on, Wed 8 Apr 2009, 15:21, archived)