I need to look into this in a LOT more detail, butas an appetiser:
1. There's some evidence that the aluminium hydroxide may remain as inclusions in the muscle where the injection was: see Gherardi's work on macrophagic myofasciitis. (Though I haven't checked: perhaps he's a nutjob).
2. It may not be directly neurotoxic. Though I don't believe adjuvants are thoroughly understood, clearly they change the way the immune system reacts to the antigen. If they keep on doing that, long after the injection of antigen, then all sorts of auto-immune damage could conceivably (speculate, waffle, hand-wave) result.
3. When did you last hear of what adjuvants are used, let alone safety trials? They just aren't discussed. They aren't mentioned in NHS pamphlets. 'MMR' has been very widely used and observed, but what is MMR? Do all the manufacturers use exactly the same adjuvant types and amounts? What if the studies showing 'MMR is fairly safe' came from a country using only one of various different brands of MMR, and different manufacturers of MMR vaccines use a different adjuvant system?
All this is rather too nebulous: as I say, I need to look further. Perhaps there are safety studies and it's all fine, or is not used routinely by NHS any more (cf. thiomersal), etc.
But, once again, my scoffing thoughts about friends who are dead-set against vaccines now ring rather hollow in my ears. (But to be clear: I expect that MMR will probably still turn out safer than the alternative of risking deafness or death from measles).
(1. There's some evidence that the aluminium hydroxide may remain as inclusions in the muscle where the injection was: see Gherardi's work on macrophagic myofasciitis. (Though I haven't checked: perhaps he's a nutjob).
2. It may not be directly neurotoxic. Though I don't believe adjuvants are thoroughly understood, clearly they change the way the immune system reacts to the antigen. If they keep on doing that, long after the injection of antigen, then all sorts of auto-immune damage could conceivably (speculate, waffle, hand-wave) result.
3. When did you last hear of what adjuvants are used, let alone safety trials? They just aren't discussed. They aren't mentioned in NHS pamphlets. 'MMR' has been very widely used and observed, but what is MMR? Do all the manufacturers use exactly the same adjuvant types and amounts? What if the studies showing 'MMR is fairly safe' came from a country using only one of various different brands of MMR, and different manufacturers of MMR vaccines use a different adjuvant system?
All this is rather too nebulous: as I say, I need to look further. Perhaps there are safety studies and it's all fine, or is not used routinely by NHS any more (cf. thiomersal), etc.
But, once again, my scoffing thoughts about friends who are dead-set against vaccines now ring rather hollow in my ears. (But to be clear: I expect that MMR will probably still turn out safer than the alternative of risking deafness or death from measles).
Bee Nice |-|,
Thu 23 Apr 2009, 22:43,
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