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# crumbs
also in case you didn't feel angry and wanted to be
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:12, archived)
# Back to the days of the Sheriff of Nottingham,
arresting the peasants for killing the king's meat.
(I helped save b3ta! LordManley twitter.com/LordManley, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:14, archived)
# Well if Prince Harry is allowed to shoot them...
(I helped save b3ta! Rocker_44 (-_-) shhhhh! Is asleep on, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:15, archived)
#
FUCK!
(I helped save b3ta! epiphany coming live from sweden, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:15, archived)
# I don't know why the farmer is so unhappy
it's only what would have happened to them at the abatoir anyway.

(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:17, archived)
# a farmer generally wants to keep his bulls for longer than 18 months
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:19, archived)
# Why?
(I helped save b3ta! LordManley twitter.com/LordManley, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:21, archived)
# to breed more cows
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:25, archived)
# No.
He uses bought in semen and not his own stock.
(I helped save b3ta! LordManley twitter.com/LordManley, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 17:57, archived)
# That's a large BBQ to be planned at such short notice, what if it rains?!
(I helped save b3ta! epiphany coming live from sweden, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:21, archived)
# boef a la umbrella
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:22, archived)
# Woh!
(I helped save b3ta! LordManley twitter.com/LordManley, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:17, archived)
# I need a knife, a fork and ticket to Edinburgh.
(I helped save b3ta! Rocker_44 (-_-) shhhhh! Is asleep on, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:18, archived)
# I get a bit worried about how upset people get about animal cruelty
I mean i'm not going to pretend that people shouldn't be upset by it but sometimes i think people lose perspective.

I don't get why people think it's ok to say that people who are cruel to animals should be killed. Maybe that animal was cruel to other animals, what then?
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:17, archived)
# Also,
I would happily catch and kill a pheasant or a rabbit. What about a deer?

I am wondering what the legalities are here - killing a 2 day old fawn by hitting it over the head and stamping on it would be pretty quick and I would possibly suggest legal on common ground?
(I helped save b3ta! LordManley twitter.com/LordManley, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:18, archived)
# I think it would be a cause for concern in the story posted above - this clearly wasn't because the kids were hungry and desperate
how that translates into law-speak i don't know.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:21, archived)
# How about course fishermen?
(I helped save b3ta! LordManley twitter.com/LordManley, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:27, archived)
# they don't usually kill the fish, do they?
animals are generally more cruel to each other than we are (except for our indirect efforts like removal of habitat etc)
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:28, archived)
# Which seems far worse to me
than catching them to kill them.

Murderers seem better than torturers.
(I helped save b3ta! LordManley twitter.com/LordManley, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 18:31, archived)
# it is an odd one
but lets face it, they weren't doing it in order to consume it afterwards
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:21, archived)
# No,
but then I do not eat rats, yet I am allowed to put down poison.

(I do not)
(I helped save b3ta! LordManley twitter.com/LordManley, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:24, archived)
# if the boys killed the fawn quickly and then ate it becasue they were starving then it would be fine
but they just killed it for their own entertainment.

My first thought was that they were budding psychos, but could all 3 of them be?
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:20, archived)
# Hmm.
How about culling? Where is the diffference between farmers who shoot dozens of rabbits and do not eat them?
(I helped save b3ta! LordManley twitter.com/LordManley, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:23, archived)
# I should stress that i do not approve of killing things for fun.
(I helped save b3ta! LordManley twitter.com/LordManley, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:24, archived)
# that wouldn't be considered 'cruel' if they were killing it quickly and eating it (at least not unneccesarily cruel)
and yes there is usually a ringleader when a group of kids do something stupid
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:25, archived)
# I tend not to assume that as human my life is more important than all others...
...then just work backwards from there.
(I helped save b3ta! Rocker_44 (-_-) shhhhh! Is asleep on, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:29, archived)
# i tend to assume that as me my life is more important to me
and i'm pretty sure everyone and everything is on the same page
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:33, archived)
# This makes sense....to a point.
(I helped save b3ta! Rocker_44 (-_-) shhhhh! Is asleep on, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:40, archived)