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# That is may as well be,
but that doesn't mean that it is acceptable or right to go inside.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Fri 31 Jul 2009, 14:31, archived)
# Yes, but we are talking the difference between
charges for misuse of computers and charges for terrorism, which is what he's going to be charged with :S He deserves to be punished but what he's facing is more than a bit severe.
(I helped save b3ta! Maximinimus you stick around I'll make it worth your while, Fri 31 Jul 2009, 14:34, archived)
# As I said before,
by all means complain about the severity of his punishment if you like, however, he is being tried for terroroism or whatever under American Law. If American law states what he did is terrorism, then he should be punished in accordance with the statute. Sadly, it is as simple as that. The odds of him actually getting sentenced to 70 years is, I would venture to say, highly unlikely.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Fri 31 Jul 2009, 14:41, archived)
# And you think American law should apply in England?
(Peter_G, Fri 31 Jul 2009, 14:42, archived)
# It's a bit hard to say where he did the crime, really.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Fri 31 Jul 2009, 14:44, archived)
# I'm not saying it necessarily should, no.
However, the crime he commited, although he was sat in England, was for all intents and purposes commited in America.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Fri 31 Jul 2009, 14:45, archived)
# no, as you said before
"He deserves everything he gets. "
although I suspect this is internet bravado
(gtfomh, Fri 31 Jul 2009, 14:43, archived)
# And I stick by that.
I said that you can argue about the severity of the punishment all you like. I however, am not.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Fri 31 Jul 2009, 14:47, archived)
# then you are either lying
or are lacking in qualities I consider necessary to be thought of as human. If someone on a tour of the houses of parliament thinks it would be funny to sit on the seats, and the pm gets embarrassed and the guy gets 20years behind bars would you argue that the guy knew it was wrong and deserves everything he gets? It seems either you don't value your life very much, or simply don't care about anyone else one bit. There's simply no getting around it; this guy is being well and truly fucked over. He's already lost getting on for a decade of his life to this bullshit as it is.
(gtfomh, Fri 31 Jul 2009, 14:56, archived)
# Maybe.
As I said before, I don't know the entire story of what he did, and no-one will till it goes to court really. He may well be being fucked over, yes, or he may have done a lot more than people so far know.

It probably is too harsh and unfair of me to say that he deserves 70 years, you're right.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Fri 31 Jul 2009, 15:02, archived)