no it was before that during the build up to the gulf conflict
tim1701 I have no board signature!!!!!,
Sat 15 Aug 2009, 20:39,
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Oh ok.So your issue is not with Gordon Brown, it is with Tony Blair.
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!,
Sat 15 Aug 2009, 20:50,
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No,My issues is with a party that has dragged us into a needless war, dug us into debt and at the momement is borrowing for a quick fix that will leave the next elected party with massive national debt, please dont make assumtions without the facts... Remember Brown is responsible for the current financial fall out form 3 disasterous budgets.... A lot of people forget that the mess he is cleaning up he created himself on an awfull lot of fronts.
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Sat 15 Aug 2009, 20:55,
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you're just inventing things to be angry about.It is normal for the government to choose when to call an election, and it would be pretty fucking stupid to call it when everyone is being all pissy 'because your smile is a bit funny like.' This is what I meant by 'you wanting him to.' You clearly dont want him in the job despite the fact that there is nothing wrong with it no matter what you think, and seem to think it would be somehow "right" for him to deliberately call an election at a bad time for the labour party, so that your favourite but inept and hypocritical tory party can have a few years in and fuck up the country good and proper.
What's funny/sad&pathetic is, there are essentially 2 broad groups of things that gordon brown has taken heavy flak for from the tory party. The most flak has been taken for the policies that are actually closest to what the fecking tories would have done themselves, but they bitch about it just because it wasnt them doing it and they realise people are too dull to realise this and will love to have a go. The other category are things that either needed to be done, or where actually just good ideas, that were practical solutions to difficult problems and were better than anyone else had come up with, not just in britain but other countries too. For these ideas he was mocked simply for being a bit awkward in some unrelated incidents that happened at around the same time.
As for not making assumptions without facts, are you in the cabinet or high up in the security services or something? You appear pretty confident claiming the government dragged us into a needless war. I think it's a bit different when you're the guy who has to make a decision like that. Further I would hardly call the current borrowing a quick fix, and nobody, including the tories had a better idea. Finally, stop being so small minded referring to how the 'next elected party' will be in debt like it is all some kind of game. I strongly suspect Gordon Brown is more concerned with the debt the COUNTRY will be in than how much debt cameron will have to work with.
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Sun 16 Aug 2009, 1:27,
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What's funny/sad&pathetic is, there are essentially 2 broad groups of things that gordon brown has taken heavy flak for from the tory party. The most flak has been taken for the policies that are actually closest to what the fecking tories would have done themselves, but they bitch about it just because it wasnt them doing it and they realise people are too dull to realise this and will love to have a go. The other category are things that either needed to be done, or where actually just good ideas, that were practical solutions to difficult problems and were better than anyone else had come up with, not just in britain but other countries too. For these ideas he was mocked simply for being a bit awkward in some unrelated incidents that happened at around the same time.
As for not making assumptions without facts, are you in the cabinet or high up in the security services or something? You appear pretty confident claiming the government dragged us into a needless war. I think it's a bit different when you're the guy who has to make a decision like that. Further I would hardly call the current borrowing a quick fix, and nobody, including the tories had a better idea. Finally, stop being so small minded referring to how the 'next elected party' will be in debt like it is all some kind of game. I strongly suspect Gordon Brown is more concerned with the debt the COUNTRY will be in than how much debt cameron will have to work with.