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# ...but to be fair
anyone who lives in Oakland is probably desperate for a reason to get out for at least a few hours every day.
(, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 5:19, archived)
# there are a few good things to do in Oaktown - they are tying hard to improve stuff
if you try hard enough (or go to Emeryville or Berkeley) but spending a few hours stuck in traffic is not so much fun - I have done that many too many times...
(, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 5:24, archived)
# Berkeley is nice
much less likely to be shot in the face than Oakland itself.

Whenever I am in San Francisco, it is always nice to drive the long way back over the Golden Gate bridge and round the North Bay before stopping off in Berkeley for something to eat. And then speeding like fuck through Oakland before I am shot, raped and carjacked. In that order.
(, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 5:29, archived)
# Hey, I have walked the streets of West Oakland
and lived to tell about it - and I know a lot of (non-gangster) people who live and play there. My band has a regular gig in Oakland - I am not ah-skeered to go there, most of the time...

and there is a whole lot more to the East Bay than just Oakland - a whole bunch of people live over there and have to commute on that damn bridge.
(, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 5:36, archived)