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# I think a lot of the lucifer story
that we know is taken from Paradise Lost, to be honest. Fuck knows where Milton found it. I think there's some material in the Apocrypha that lend support to it to, but in the Bible we know and love in Protestant and Catholic nations, Satan first appears in Job as God's poker-partner, gambling on whether they can fuck up the most holy man on Earth enough that he'll curse God's name.

God, eh? What a fucking pikey cunt.
(, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:44, archived)
# Our survey says no.
Genesis 3 you fool! The Garden of Eden? The Serpent?
(, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:51, archived)
# Identification of the Serpent with Satan
is also a result of dogma. (That's dogma, not Dogma, the acclaimed Kevin Smith movie.) Point me anywhere in Genesis that says

"And the serpent, who was called Lucifer and was a heavenly body cast down from Heaven for refusing to worship Adam and inexplicably present in Eden -- and probably also in the right, since the mighty YAHWEH would later demand that no-one worship anyone but Himself which suggests he was a bit soft in the head, said to Eve, 'Go on, eat the fucking apple, bitch! By the way, I'm the king of Hell.' "
(, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:55, archived)