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# The UK has been an oligarchy for a VERY long time
If anything things have improved.. to quote Blackadder, 'Democracy isn't fair. Take Manchester: population 600000; electoral roll 3'
(, Wed 13 Jan 2010, 9:17, archived)
# When it was Lib/Lab/Con it was Working Class/Middle Class/Upper Class
Now it's all Banker Class - so it hasn't improved for the majority of us.
(, Wed 13 Jan 2010, 9:24, archived)
# I think the old 3-class system has been replaced by the new 3-class system:
Twats
Chavs
Us
(, Wed 13 Jan 2010, 9:27, archived)
# True
but it's only been Lab/Lib/Con for the past 100 odd years, for a very long time it was only Lib/Con. In the lifeline of democracy in the UK, the working classes had genuine political representationon only very briefly , before Labour was taken over by the professional middle classes.

But I do agree with you, something's got to give. IMO, we need electoral reform urgently.
(, Wed 13 Jan 2010, 9:34, archived)
# 1) Good, because parties representing classes is akin to tribal warfare.
2) If you mean PR, it makes every government a coalition and everything becomes even more centrist. Everybody is essentially always in power, at least a bit. If you mean direct democracy, see (1). Which is not to say that indirect democracy makes any sense, but it's a system under which bastards get power and then you hurl abuse at them for decade or so and vote them out in favour of different bastards who appear nicer, and as such is better than a system (and I mean proportional representation as well as direct democracy) without anybody specific to complain at. At least under the current system somebody has to be a bit creative to get in power.

Ideally nobody (rather than everybody) would have the power.
(, Wed 13 Jan 2010, 10:12, archived)