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How about when Putin, who funded it to weaken the EU and NATO, starts blatantly provoking the west, specifically the country he just paid to weaken, and they respond in such a way that he can validate military action?

I am reminded of foreign policy as described by Bill Hicks using a fictional recount of Jack Palance in the movie Shane, throwing the pistol at the sheep herder's feet: "Pick it up."

"I don't wanna pick it up mister, you'll shoot me."

"Pick up the gun."

"Mister, I don't want no trouble, huh. I just came down town here to get some hard rock candy for my kids, some gingham for my wife. I don't even know what gingham is, but she goes through about 10 rolls a week of that stuff. I ain't looking for no trouble, mister."

"Pick up the gun."

Boom, boom.

"You all saw him. He had a gun."

In this example, Putin is Jack Palance and the UK is the homesteader who is about to point a gun at Palance.
(, Tue 20 Mar 2018, 13:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post Well we're not about attack russia military so I don't see how you can make that comparison.
In fact the UK state appears to have been appeasing putins actions here for some time.The use of a military nerve agent must have just been too big to cover up as a suicide.

It was originally being spun by the state as fentanyl poisoning.
Might have stayed that way until a police responder got it too and they had to decontaminate half of Salisbury.
(, Tue 20 Mar 2018, 14:04, , Reply)
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Neither was the sheep herder about to attack Jack Palance in the analogy. Do you really not understand English?
(, Tue 20 Mar 2018, 14:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post I just see that as sensible
when an entity blatantly more capable of dealing with any conflict is trying to force one, the only proper way through is to not rise to their blatant baiting.

Of course with all the right wing shit rags bleating about traitors, sovereignty, and nationalism, it will be difficult for the PM to justify doing so even though it is important that they do not rise to the bait.

EDIT : and if you read the tweet that started this whole conversation, Junkers mentions security TWICE in it.

These people know what they are saying and they dog whistle it to each other all the time. They know Putin is trying to weaken the EU and NATO and they are telling him they will be trying to stop that.

"relations between the #EU and #Russia are crucial to the #security of our continent. Our objective should be to re-establish a cooperative pan-European security order."

Which to me sounds like they take the killings seriously, so seriously they will not twattersplat about them, unlike a certain American president...
(, Tue 20 Mar 2018, 14:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post in other words, we've had 20 years of non-cooperation under your current president, we think things should change

(, Tue 20 Mar 2018, 15:19, , Reply)