I'll be the first to welcome criticism of Corbyn.
But this is just utter fucking guff. The vocal minority of outwardly spoken Jews that love to lament about how terribly persecuted they are and how awful the Holocaust was and how horrifically anti-semitic you are if you even think about criticising the Israeli government need to wind their fucking necks in.
God forbid you remind one of these utter fucking morons that a far from insignificant number of non-Jewish Slavs, Poles, Roma Gypsies, Blacks, Gays and disabled, as well as any outspoken political or political religious opponments of the Nazi state were also put to death in these camps.
God forbid you bring up any of the more recent, smaller scale but equally horrific genocides that have taken place since WW2.
We know the Holocaust was awful. You don't need to keep fucking bleating about it every time somebody mentions anything remotely Jewish.
There are plenty of reasons to be critical of the Israeli Government completely unrelated to the fact that Israel is a largely Jewish nation.
Corbyn may very well dislike Jews. They're not a particularly difficult difficult religious group to dislike if all you base your opinion on are the opinions of complete fuds like Maureen fucking Lipman doing their best to misrepresent them. But for fuck's sake, If you're going to go on a hate campaign against Jeremy, at least choose something with a bit of fucking merit - like his utterly fucking mindless Shadow Cabinet. Not completely equivocal claims of Anti-Semitism.
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^racist
Seriously though, how did judaism and islamism get exempt from criticism?
I criticise and ridicule all religions which apperantly is fine when it's about, say, christianity or bhudism, but when it's about judaism or islamism, suddenly it's racist.
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Tusk knows where you live, Thu 12 Dec 2019, 13:32,
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I don't think it's so much that those two are particularly exempt. It's just that those two are perceived to be the two religious groups most at risk from persecution in the Western World.
I don't think it's any more 'okay' to wish harm against Sikhs or Christians than is to wish harm against Muslims or Jews if your primary motivation is simply the theistic guidelines that individual has chosen to follow.
I'm atheist. I also think that in the grand scheme of things that all religion is bad. But on an individual level, if following the teachings of the Quran/Bible/Torah/Guru Granth Sahib/whatever gives you some kind of benevolent purpose in life (which is generally the case for the vast majority of religious folk), then have at it, I say.
Islamphobia in particular is singled out because the UK has a growing Muslim population. Like whenever any other minority group (Caribbeans/Pakistanis) begin to migrate en masse to the UK, some of our pinker residents get a little shirty. Combine that with an ignorance/unfamiliarity with Islam as well as our news media essentially telling the UK public that any Muslim is a 'potential terrorist' and you've got a pretty good recipe for an outright campaign of hate against anybody with brown skin that likes to use a prayer mat.
You can't criticise Judaism, because it instantly makes you a Nazi sympathiser. Obviously.
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I don't wish harm upon religious or 'spiritual' people, I just think they're gullible and a bit thick.
The point I was trying to make was, how did these two religions, which people choose to follow, got equated with race, which is unsolicitedly assigned at birth.
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Tusk knows where you live, Thu 12 Dec 2019, 15:26,
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But, but, God's chosen people
Luckily we have Christian evangelicals with their pious Trump voting racism to save the day. Grab em by the pussy, amen.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Thu 12 Dec 2019, 14:03,
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Personally
I don't agree with the concept that if you criticise the actions of the government of Israel you are criticising the Jewish faith and are therefore antisemitic.
There are enough actual antisemitic, racist and hate-based crimes to criticise without making a government immune from having its actions examined.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Thu 12 Dec 2019, 14:28,
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Some tiresome fool on my Facebook keeps posting links about JC and antisemitism
He is jewish.
He recently cited an study that claimed folks on the far left are more antisemitic than those on the far right. Fair enough I thought, but I'd like to dig down into the data.
It turns out that the study deemed you antisemitic if you thought TV coverage of Israel was biased in favour of palestinians.
That level of militancy drives avery bad discourse where folks can't have an opinion
^ racist
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colmcq2, Thu 12 Dec 2019, 16:31,
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