b3ta.com links
You are not logged in. Login or Signup
Home » links » Link 1546333 | Random (Thread)

This is a normal post Surely the processor supplies the perception, like the brain does for the eye.

(I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Fri 31 Jul 2020, 16:23, Reply)
This is a normal post I think you have this the wrong way round, but maybe I should have said 'mind' instead of 'brain.'
A computer processor perceives nothing. Yet.*

*With all respect to Roko's basilisk.
 (I helped save b3ta! brb welcome to my reed organ repair blog, Fri 31 Jul 2020, 17:39, Reply)
This is a normal post Perception in the sense that it receives information and makes some order of it.
Not consciousness, an insect can perceive a stimulus and react to it, it isn't sentient but it does need to collect and make sense of data.
 (I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Fri 31 Jul 2020, 17:59, Reply)
This is a normal post Can you prove an insect isn't sentient?
The computer can be programmed to make use of data, in a way, but really it is the user who makes use of the whole thing.

Fucking hell the English language gets in the way of articulating these ideas. Users using and making use of useful uses.
 (I helped save b3ta! brb welcome to my reed organ repair blog, Fri 31 Jul 2020, 18:18, Reply)
This is a normal post 'Proof' itself is often a slippery word.
Actual proof is only available in mathematics, everything else is supportive evidence.
Isn't the insect effectively programmed at the DNR level by the position of proteins and then further coding?
 (I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Fri 31 Jul 2020, 20:00, Reply)
This is a normal post But isn't the human effectively programmed in the same way?
(Assuming you mean DNA).

I think there's a spectrum of sentience; that an ant has enough self awareness to be a good ant, communicates with other ants using language (made from pheromones\hormones rather than words), has a concept of time and space, mortality, things and their kinds, understands tool use, understands agriculture (their fungus farms), and even has individual creativity (e.g. no two ant hills are quite the same, each individual chooses which materials to use and where to put each building block).
 (I helped save b3ta! brb welcome to my reed organ repair blog, Fri 31 Jul 2020, 21:16, Reply)
This is a normal post No, like everything in our simulation
they are simply programmed by the scientist
 (I helped save b3ta! Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Fri 31 Jul 2020, 22:07, Reply)