So once would have been sufficient in this case to remove any threat of the bloke grabbing a gun and turning it on his children or the Officer?
www.ajc.com/news/national/here-why-police-don-shoot-wound-the-case-deadly-force/IV4ohtIm6r8FaEMj78u1bO/
(, Tue 25 Aug 2020, 9:03, Reply)
"turning it on his children or the Officer"
so you admit you have no idea of his intentions. that they could have been anything including "go sit in his car for a bit and listen to Sepultura because of all these crazy women doing his head in"
And " ensure the assailant stops reaching for a weapon" is a much nicer way of saying the "making sure the man getting into his car is totally fubared"
The link you gave, while it might be protocol for US cops, describes examples where the officers are actually being threatened with weapons, not "maybe he's going fish one out of his car so I better execute him just in case"
Again, you seem to know more details. if he actually said he was getting a gun, then that's a fair justification. That he actually had some weapons charges, I think it puts it into the debatable pending enquiry category on whether it was justified. But the fact it's getting looked at all is because of both being on film and the BLM protests. ones with far less justification almost never resulted in even a caution before this. It took a week of protest to change their mind and investigate the Floyd killing, one that ended up with adverse findings against the officers involved when looked at by an independent coroner.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 25 Aug 2020, 10:46,
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Bullshit that this was in anyway justified.
Any way you turn it, you don't execute people because they "might".
The officer's gun is aimed, safety off, bullet in chamber, slack out of trigger - instead of panicking and shouting like a loon.
Then wait to see if he is getting his wallet or a Glock.
No way in fucking world that dude can get a gun out, chamber a round, remove safety, raise his arm, aim and fire before a trained person can get 2 or 3 well aimed shot to the centre of mass.
Even if that dude is a Navy Seal/Jacky Chan/Ninja he is done for.
This is real life, not movies or a video game.
(, Tue 25 Aug 2020, 12:48, Reply)
So, if you were that Police Officer, how would you have handled things differently?
Assuming that the bloke was reaching for a weapon.
(, Tue 25 Aug 2020, 15:01, Reply)
"ullo, ullo, ullo. what's all this then? Thinking of doing a bit of shooting, are we? Right. You're nicked"
"it's a fair cop, gov"
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 25 Aug 2020, 15:13,
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Half arsed trained I would have.
Btw, I work with stuff that could kill me or my colleagues in an instant as fast as a Glock most everyday.
Watching out for your life and your mates all day everyday is tiring and frustrating - I get it.
I've worked in war zones too, I get it too.
Shooting out the 180 bar hydraulics or the 3000V supply would save my life and be quick.
But we don't, so we train, drill, watch out and do our job properly and debrief.
Doing worse than that cop is hardly possible, he killed a man through sheer incompetence.
Fuckwits like that should not have more responsibility than a damp cloth to clean tables, so the real pros can take orders and serve.
(, Tue 25 Aug 2020, 21:47, Reply)