look, this one there's definitely more to it given the background and the events that happened off camera
I hope you don't mind me continuing to argue, Im just curious myself of what the thresholds are for justifying the use of lethal force in the US
but I don't think this guy shed any more light on it. Firstly he said that "you don't let people get into a car" again like it's some rule which it isn't, no more than entering a house or doing quite a few other activities. If the knife was the threat, and it's not confirmed it was a knife, then in the unlikely event he was planning to slash his own sons in the car he probably wouldn't walk around to the empty drivers side. So I think the "saving them from knife attack" looks pretty weak and it'd be hard to use that and "he was going for his gun", you'd have to pick one or the other. He also said "he either told police he was getting a gun, or they knew he had prior weapons possession", like these two facts are interchangeable. They're not, the first clearly establishes both possession and intention, the second can only be a suspicion on both his possession and intentions. the possession might be a reasonable suspicion given the prior, but the intention to use a gun could not be anymore than a guess given his behaviour. So whether he said it or not is quite pertinent. He may have just been escaping another tasing. If it turns out he didn't have a knife, he didn't say he was getting his gun, and there was no gun in the car, the cops are going to look on very shaky ground. Still I'm looking at it through the lens of UK policing where terms like reasonable suspicion are crucial and there's quite a lot of case law and legislative guidance to decide these things
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 25 Aug 2020, 15:50,
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you don't do particular well with issues that aren't clearly defined or starkly binary, do you? Where you can say "this is right, this is wrong"
it's ok if you're not. In fact I'd be less likely to mock or challenge your certitudes if it was something you could admit. None of us are perfect
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 26 Aug 2020, 7:13,
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It the US
When they have a list of bullet point questions for a suspect,
It better be a short list, because then they need to reload.
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