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This is a normal post Brexit:
A mechanism whereby the very rich keep control of the very poor, and make more people very poor whilst at the same time making the rich even more rich, and fool the poor into thinking it was their idea.

It was always going to fail, we said so before the vote, we will continue to say so.

Personally, I would like to be proven wrong, for the country to go from strength to strength because of our new independence, for the Tories to make Brexit win, instead of *just* getting it done. But that won't happen.

My marker for when something is a bad idea for the majority of people in this country is to see if it is something Rees-Mogg is in favour of.

If he wants it, it is bad for us.
(, Fri 22 Jan 2021, 13:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post An old and familiar pattern.

(, Fri 22 Jan 2021, 14:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post It's too early to tell what will happen
My guess is that it will settle down into a new normal, as things always do. I'm old enough to have lived through many changes in Europe and things just adapt to the new situation. Some win, some lose. It's the same when a new company enters the market and fucks over all the old businesses, like Amazon did. You can complain or change.

Brexit has affected me too, but it won't be reversed, so why spend my life whining about people who voted for it.

The danger is that anger over Brexit dominates your life. It's like being a ex-husband who just won't ever let go and wants things back to how they were. They never will be. Move on, or you just end up miserable.
(, Sat 23 Jan 2021, 11:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post
It won't be reversed? I dunno about that. Article 50 has a very clear and specifically-worded clause for re-entry, and many eyes are on that prize. When you consider the numbers, however you slice it, brexit was not a majority 'vote'*, its zealots are dying out in droves due to age and corona, to be replaced with (generally) savvier more progressive younger voters, who are not voting Tory - and certainly not whatever the present equivalent of UKIP is. As it's become clear, brexit was a lame-duck vanity project which has already fallen on its arse to most people's thunderous lack of surprise, and its reversal is all but inevitable - it's a matter of when, and under who's directive, not if.

As for 'whining', whatever you call it, my view is that it is important that those who were seduced into voting* for this train wreck are made aware of the very real consequences of their actions, to reckon with the likelihood that their choice was motivated by insidious xenophobia at best and downright racism at worst - whatever the thin fig leaf du jour is, the 'sovereignty' fallacy, etc. To reckon with the fact that they are complicit in that and the UK's tarnished global reputation. As 'Project Fear'/Reality has been made very apparent for at least 5 years, the brexiteer gullibility cannot be a blameless accident, but a choice. Mockery at least introduces the notion that perhaps they were wrong, and that a narrowly-successful vote* does not mean infallibility.

* not a vote, a poll - subtle but important difference.
(, Sat 23 Jan 2021, 14:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post "why spend your life whining about the people who voted for it"
Stab in the dark here but I'm guessing you're one of those who voted for it and you'd rather everyone stopped laughing at you
(, Sat 23 Jan 2021, 16:31, , Reply)