Why don't they create trans divisions then?
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Tue 29 Jun 2021, 7:11,
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because we're all supposed to pretend they're women, it's about inclusion, which means you including whatever new orthodoxy it is somebody else wants or you're a prick
They are women, despite not growing up as women, not having all the defining experiences that girls have because they're girls, not having periods, not being treated as female by their teachers, their classmate, parents and friends, not knowing what it's like to have have a vagina and frig yourself under the covers, to have female hormones mediating their behaviour, all the common biological, social, and cultural factors and experiences that make up them being a women, we just have to ignore all this and treat them as women and not some bloke acting out some idea of what he imagines women are because anything else is insensitive and wrong. If I black up my face and dress as bob marley, it's vile racist cultural appropriation, but if put on a dress and lipstick you must respect my chosen gender identity because that's the way we show to our peers how nice and woke and accepting we are, and if you don't we'll vilify you as a cunt on social media
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 29 Jun 2021, 15:29,
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^ absolutely spot on.
People will find it offensive but be absolutely and completely unable to say why.
For some reason, those opposed to males in female sport have been forced down a cul-de-sac of explaining the blindingly obvious. But here’s the thing.
If you think “women” are an idea that male people can have and claim to literally be, and you think that women’s existence *as* female people, with their own needs, experiences, politics is somehow an abhorrent idea, then it doesn’t matter that you formed your view based on what the progressive left says -you are an active sexist.
Trans activism is the only civil rights movement that demands recognition and acceptance not as what they are - trans people - but as something they aren’t; members of the opposite sex. The mental gymnastics to pretend that laying claim to the opposite sex *isnt* what’s happening is laid bare in the issue of male people in female sport, and a lot of people on this thread who, based on their usual posting, aren’t stupid, need to have a word with themselves.
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let em compete, that's what I say
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 29 Jun 2021, 16:48,
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I don't care that much about it. Ive known a fair few trannies over the years, though oddly more in melbourne and brasil than in my years in london. maybe different scenes?
I'm happy to call them women and use female pronouns as it seems polite and is no skin off my nose, but it's with the understanding that the label is kind of a shared fantasy. they are what they are, as we all are, and I take them on their merits. It doesn't make them better or worse. But sport is different, and I reckon it shouldn't need to change itself and deny women a shot at gold in order to extend that fantasy just because they would like to join in as women. It's like the door-hating pistorius, people tolerated him bouncing around on pogo legs as long as he didn't win gold. if this kiwi trannie wins, it'll be the first and last I reckon
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 29 Jun 2021, 16:32,
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You make an interesting point about blacking up.
Rachel Dolezal was exposed as a fraud and her career, rightly, destroyed. There have been a few other white US academics exposed as race fantasists. Trans raciality, it seems, is forbidden. Trans sexuality though is being enshrined in law.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 30 Jun 2021, 0:52,
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