Hilarious.
How inconvenient for her that “Karen” is an insult laden with misogyny.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 1 Jul 2021, 7:04,
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I want to speak to your manager, NOW!
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 1 Jul 2021, 11:23,
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Nope.
Bitch, for example, is a misogynist term of abuse. Using the term doesn't necessarily mean you're a misogynist. But if you are a fully paid up member of the woke brigade, you ought not to throw such insults about. It's all about intellectual consistency and integrity. You know, like following the science on climate change, Covid and trans sexuality.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 1 Jul 2021, 11:18,
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seeing you made a reasonable reply to me in the last thread I'll do you the same courtesy
I think I understand the accusation you're making, but I reckon you've got jacinda pegged wrong, most probably because of the sympathetic things she said about muslims in wake of the mosque bombing that played well around the world (though had a predictable backlash when the right press thought it was safe to start sniping). the labour (or labor) parties in oz and kiwiland are quite centrist, more so than uk labour especially under the beardy twat, and pretty cutthroat in their factionalism. they produce pretty thick-skinned rough-and-tumble pollies, and ahern isnt one that carries on with a lot of identity politics in the normal course of affairs, they have green senators if you like that sort of thing, and has a decent sense of humour on her. so not one of the woke brigade that you could pin hypocrisy on. she's actually pretty ordinary, which is either refreshing or disappointing depending on your viewpoint
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Thu 1 Jul 2021, 12:07,
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You seem eager to attack Adern for something
but its not clear that you understand what you're talking about.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Thu 1 Jul 2021, 13:52,
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Abusing the term misogyny...
'Karen' is not necessarily misogynistic (granted that it can be it certain circumstances, like most things, and IS very unfair for people actually called 'Karen'). Indeed, it is also used for men (e.g.: Donald Trump was labelled "Karen in chief" in The Atlantic by David Graham: 'The Karen in Chief', May 28, 2020). There is actually no accepted male equivalent ('Ken' and 'Kevin' have been suggested, among others, without success).
None of which has any bearing on Jacinda's point, which was about her hate speech legislation, quoting Judith Collins' own tweet "Will calling a middle-aged white woman a ‘Karen’ now be a crime under Jacinda Ardern’s law?" (JudithCollinsMP/status/1409733416547864577) in her reply to her.
Life CAN BE a 'bitch', but this kind of trolling does no justice to the Jötnar....
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I’m sensing much love for Jacinda.
It’s true I don’t know a lot about her. I do realise it was a joke. In my defence, it really was not a funny joke. My animosity mainly comes from what I thought was a shit name calling joke being held up as a good one.
You can say “Karen” isn’t misogynistic if you like. Given its early and continued usage in memes, and the lameness of the argument ‘some journalist called a male president it so it can’t be misogynistic’, we’ll just have to agree to disagree on that one.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 1 Jul 2021, 19:26,
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Naah : just respect for a witty comeback, mate ;-)
It's only a 59 second video (and a 2-line National Party tweet) : difficult to misunderstand.
It was Judith Collins who brought up the Karens (worried that she would no longer be able to use the term herself), Jacinda merely sent her packing with a pithy and elegant retort worthy of Plutarch's 'Apophthegmata Laconica'.
And yes, along with thousands of other New Zealand women, Jacinda did wear a headscarf in solidarity with her Muslim compatriots after the Christchurch shootings that had made so many of them afraid to go outdoors.
¿Cuál es el problema?
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it's ok to admit, (once a day is probably healthy)
that you're just a little bit of a twat, pru.
no disrespect. we all overstretch our shitty opinions sometimes.
the hysterical toilet-flush of transgender commentary below is a perfect example.
"karen" is no more mysoginistic than "jock" is misandrist. sometimes figures of ridicule are somewhat defined by their gender. so what?
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Hysterical? Like a Karen?
“The word hysteria originates from the Greek word for uterus, hystera. ... The Egyptians attributed the behavioral disturbances to a wandering uterus—thus later dubbing the condition hysteria. To treat hysteria Egyptian doctors prescribed various medications.”
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 1 Jul 2021, 23:41,
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You seemed to have strayed out of your comfort zone (again)
It is perfectly true that the ætimology of 'hysteria' lies the Greek word for uterus (ὑστέρα — 'uterus' itself being a Latin word, of course). However, you then state that it was the "Egyptians" who "dubbed the condition ['wandering uterus'] hysteria".
The Egyptian Old-Middle-New kingdoms were Bronze Age civilisations (roughly c. 3100 BC to c. 1070 BC) whereas the post-Mycenæan Greeks (Hellenes) were Iron Age (roughly 1200/800 BC through the Roman Empire). Short of time-travelling extra-terrestrial pyramid-building aliens, how can you explain ancient Egyptians travelling several centuries (even millenia) into their future in order to "dub the condition hysteria" in a later (and foreign...) language ??
You mentioned "intellectual consistency and integrity" this afternoon, yet you cannot understand a 59 second video in simple English, and you are also patently ignorant of the most elementary chronology of our shared Human history.
It's really rather silly to comment on stuff you don't understand.
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Don’t get your knickers in a twist, Karen.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 2 Jul 2021, 0:55,
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Is this your sock’s first outing?
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 2 Jul 2021, 1:11,
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Well, you got one 'like' for your Karen comment there : mine
Not often I get called a Karen by a snowflake in a feldgrau frock, so that's a bonnie wee feather fer my (blue) bonnet : Slàinte (and keep the socks) !
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I’ll take that as a resounding ‘yes’.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 2 Jul 2021, 11:57,
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10 hours to work out a comeback...
You are no Jacinda (but then she is no snowflake ;-)
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Wow! Only minutes for that humdinger of a zinger! You win the internet!
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 2 Jul 2021, 16:28,
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Ooh, get you !
Time for those "various medications" of yours, Liebling.
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Eight years of silence, and now almost instant replies. Weird.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 2 Jul 2021, 17:09,
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You are sadly mistaken on several counts there
With your usual fondness for commenting on things you know nothing about
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