who said anything about assigning a grade to every woman we saw? talk about a strawman
But you do presumably notice comparatively beautiful or comparatively ugly women, unless you've totally lost interest, and the majority of tranny woman are at the bottom and inspire that reaction, not just in me, but in most passers-by. They're of an ugliness that my kids tug my shirt and I have to explain to them it's rude to stare at people. I mean, there's people that are attracted to trannies, but there's people who go for morbidly obese women too. but the vast majority of people have a fairly conformist range of what they consider attractive.
However you'd or they'd wish things to be, that's the reality. Maybe some it doesn't bother, maybe some like the reaction they never got as blokes. Good luck to 'em, it's quite a brave thing to do. But they have to deal with it, nevertheless, and should know that it's not going to be some belle of the ball fantasy. Somehow I doubt that this aspect is explained to them amongst the modern transitioning support that they get
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 8 Aug 2021, 1:39,
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I suspect adults contemplating transition have thought about this.
It's much deeper than being conventionally attractive.
There are pretty strict protocols around transitioning where surgery or hormonal treatments are involved (UK). This is done IIRC, to weed out people with other conditions, experimenting teenagers etc.
Edit: Watch 'The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert'
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Sun 8 Aug 2021, 2:34,
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never underestimate the ability of people to entertain completely unrealistic notions in their head, especially about themselves
and given modern norms, I bet at no stage any of the allied health professionals involved ever mention the word ugly. anyway, it's just an observation. When I see a tranny walk down the high street I often wonder if getting continuously stared at aghast like a circus freak was quite what they had in mind when they felt like expressing their trapped gender identity or however they describe it. It's certainly not the experience that most women whom they're trying to emulate get. The ones who you can instantly identify as such have it a bit easier, it's the ones where there's that initial doubt that get those unmoderated reactions.
And priscilla, which I've seen, was about drag queens doing a touring show. I hope you're not suggesting people make the transition just so they can be Ru Paul. I didn't think it was that realistic anyway. People in shitty mining towns, where I've spent a fair bit of time, are more accepting of wierdos and outcasts than you might think, as a lot of them are that themselves. It's the endless suburbs of australia where most people live where people are the most conformist and judgemental
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 8 Aug 2021, 4:49,
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never underestimate the ability of people to entertain completely unrealistic notions in their head, especially about themselves
like the way you've written multiple paragraphs of your opinion of what other people's intenal thought processes are and how you'll judge them for just wanting to be happy?
give it a rest you tedious cunt
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i'm afraid you're too thick to follow my argument, and have misinterpreted my position
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 8 Aug 2021, 13:06,
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Priscilla highlights differences in why people do drag.
One of the characters is transgender, the others are in drag. For the guys this is 'showbiz' for her it is more serious.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Sun 8 Aug 2021, 22:48,
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it's been a long time since I watched it, but I remember it being a good flick, good performances
And I take the point you were making
I think it was terence stamps character who was the transgender, who he played with a fair bit of pathos
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 8 Aug 2021, 23:58,
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maybe I notice some women briefly
Everyone else I don't give a second thought in the same way I don't really think about a cis man or an 80 year old woman. Whatever their appearance, it's not for my benefit. I don't sit on the tube gawping at people, thinking about how a person I'm never going to interact with doesn't meet my arbitrary attractiveness criteria.
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well, good for you. You're a fine human being and I won't hear anyone say differently
But if you happen to see a tranny on the tube or out and about, don't look at them, look at how the strangers around them are reacting to them. the stares, the glance that break on eye contact. the whispers. the unconcealed reactions of kids. Then think about what it must be like experiencing this constantly.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 8 Aug 2021, 13:33,
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