now that you've tried your 101 internet trolling gambit
I'd be curious, if you feel like being honest, if him getting gawped at by strangers on the high street was one aspect that was hard to deal with, and it's an aspect which is quite unlike what biological females tend to experience. Take your time, I'm off to do some shopping
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 8 Aug 2021, 9:43,
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Biological females don't get gawped at in the street?
Maybe he didn't give a fuck. Should people with physical deformities hide themselves away from the public eye incase their appearance upsets people, too? What exactly is the point you're trying to make?
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no, again this wasn't an argument I made. you seem very keen to put words into my mouth
my point was this is a common experience for trannies in public, and whether people who assist in them in transitioning, like the psychiatrist in the video, adequately inform them of this quite harsh reality. The fact that people like yourself cant even acknowledge it without resorting to hysterical contrivances like your last reply makes me think that this might be something that in trying to create a supportive atmosphere and allow the person to fulfil whatever gender identity they want to express, this less savoury aspect might be omitted. I also wonder if all the out drag queen stuff might be a way of dealing something they would have copped anyway, but at least it's on their terms. You'd have to do some sort of poll of trannies to find out. but it's a valid observation, and whether you have problems dealing with it is your business
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 8 Aug 2021, 12:04,
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This is just an example of
The way people treat trans people like babies, not like women.
A trans woman being gawped at in the street is experiencing something very different ti what a woman experiences when she is gawped at on the street. The latter is experiencing men who can’t or choose not to control themselves when they see someone they find attractive, the former is experiencing people staring because they’re seeing a person who looks a bit “off” to them and so is doing a double take or clocking them.
That’s the reality of it.
I think there’s a germ of a point there though, which is that it seems likely - especially based on the outfits I’ve seen some in when I’ve seen trans people out and about - that there’s a conscious choice to provoke a WTF? reaction, because the person can experience the stares that they didn’t get when dressed in masculine/neutral clothing, and process the experience as affirmation on]f being a woman.
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like I said, it was more of an observation , and I remember wondering at the time watching other peoples reaction if this was what they imagined it was going to be like before they transitioned
perhaps because of my crudeness Swagatha has me pegged as some tranny hater, but I reckon I've had more in my social circle than many, though no relatives I know about. If someone's friendly to me then I reciprocate, though I do have an aversion to dull people who trannies rarely are. I lived in brazil where travestis (their term for anything from drag to transgender) were more common and treated a little differently, though it wasn't without transphobia. And one of the most common reasons for gay blokes becoming TGs was that they could make more money as prostitutes, somehow the macho latin culture saw picking up trannies as more acceptable than gayzinhos. i lived near where avenida republica became indianapolis which was tranny prostitute central of the whole continent of an evening. My view on these thing is you probably should try and express your desires as long as it doesn't involve children or animals. but be prepared for the consequences of that expression, which can be copping constant gawping, or worse, kids and a mortgage
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 8 Aug 2021, 12:54,
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