b3ta.com links
You are not logged in. Login or Signup
Home » links » Link 1579897 | Random (Thread)

This is a normal post perhaps if you'd sat through the trial you would have come to a different conclusion
The fact you think they dropped it in the Severn suggests you may not have all the relevant info
(, Sat 8 Jan 2022, 23:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm sure the specific body of water
makes all the difference.

But please, if you believe you're aware of some relevant info, such as some other reason why they were acquitted, then do share.
(, Sun 9 Jan 2022, 13:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post Why does it seem like a stretch?
How can it be decent to erect and maintain statues of the very worst kind of racists? Especially considering the years of campaigning to remove the monument rejected by the relevant local authorities.

The public order act of 1986 states:


A person who uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting, is guilty of an offence if—

(a) he intends thereby to stir up racial hatred, or

(b) having regard to all the circumstances racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby.
(My emphasis added.)

Please explain how erecting and maintaining a monument celebrating the life of Edward fucking Colston is compatible with that law.

Please also explain why you are upset at people who defiled a monument to a fucking slave trader.
(, Sun 9 Jan 2022, 16:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post Well if you do insist on getting all technical,
erecting and maintaining a statue does not meet the definition of threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, nor is it a display of written material.

But even if it did, it's been sitting there quietly ignored by passers by, for longer than the collective ages of the people who toppled it,
thoroughly failing to stir up the fires of racial hatred. I argue that racial hatred got stirred up first, and then was targeted at the statue.

Incidentally I'm not upset, and I bear these guys no ill will; Beni literally requested for a contrary opinion so he got one.
I don't think the acquittal particularly makes sense, but it's not like this is a big deal. At worst the damage was a bunch of noisy hassle.

Yeah, the statue is shit, of a guy who was shitter, and it's for the best that it has gone.
I agree with the outcome, I'm just not down with mobs knocking down monuments.
(, Mon 10 Jan 2022, 0:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post I've heard testimony
from black Bristolians who describe the gutting feeling of walking past that statue to and from work. They didn't make a conscious decision to be a victim.

Legal precedent is on my side wrt the public order act, I believe.
(, Mon 10 Jan 2022, 1:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post You may well be right. IAMAL.
But if that is the case I expect some extremely circuitous chicanery of words must have been employed to get that legislation to fit.

My blind guess is it would all hinge on the word insulting, which is a deeply flawed word that is impossible to objectively define.
(, Mon 10 Jan 2022, 1:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post It's pretty simple.
Is your work/action/statement likely to cause racial hatred? If so, it's illegal.
(, Mon 10 Jan 2022, 13:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post If your knowledge of Bristol is patchy I can see why you might have trouble understanding the jury's decision
Do you have firsthand knowledge of the city or are you just speculating based on stuff you've read? Have you heard of the Merchant Venturers for instance?
(, Sun 9 Jan 2022, 20:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post There seem to be a lot of cunts from Bristol, historically, and in the present day.
I say we burn the whole fucking place down and be done with it.
(, Sun 9 Jan 2022, 23:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post I have no problem understanding the jury's decision.
They probably liked defendants, and agreed with the outcome of the incident, so they let em off. It's an easy concept to understand.

I might have liked them too and let them off too. I don't agree with what they did, and I do think it's pretty clearly against the law,
but it is only an ugly chunk of bronze. If people hate it that much, and getting rid of it will make them pipe down, it's good that it's gone.

Put up a nice horse, or a bear or a dragon or something.
(, Mon 10 Jan 2022, 0:44, , Reply)