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This is a normal post So wrong about so much.
I would like to point out that each inhabited continent's news agencies report on their local news with more interest than the news occurring on other continents. I would like to point this out to you especially, since I was under the impression that you despised identity politics and populist demagoguery, yet here you are, spewing it out like a demented Corbynite or Trumpanzee, in front of everyone.

"..They don't have anything particularly valuable buried under the ground" is very oddly wrong. There's a strong consensus that this war is as much about fossil fuels as it is about re-establishing Russia as a superpower. Ukrainian gas has long been touted as an alternative to Russian gas.

Wikifuckingpedia says: "Significant natural resources in Ukraine include iron ore, coal, manganese, natural gas, oil, salt, sulphur, graphite, titanium, magnesium, kaolin, nickel, mercury, timber and an abundance of arable land."

"Nobody outside of Facebook and Reddit really expect this to turn into WW3, because, at the end of the day, Ukraine isn't valuable enough to either side to even flirt with the idea." This is pure ignorance. Ukranian people are calling this WWIII, begging us for air support and a no fly zone, analysts across the world are saying the risk of nuclear war is as high now as it's been since the 70s. It's evidently valuable enough for Putin to spend thousands of Russian lives on it. I don't know how you can hold your opinion in the face of reality, unless you have fully disengaged from it.

Calling this a passing fad of moral outrage and then whataboutery, whatever. You really have been quite well indoctrinated by some scummy cunts.

Watch the BBC, Sky News, ITN, & C4 News. Dip into DW News from Germany, they're very good. Avoid whatever shit led you to Agent OXO. Avoid GBeebies. Avoid any news provider trying to sell you a water filter, a gold investment scheme, NORD VPN, or a ball shaving kit.
(, Tue 1 Mar 2022, 22:10, Reply)
This is a normal post Or perhaps I'm just not reacting to the situation with the kinds of blind panic some other folk are.
I'd wager that the vast majority of folk this side of Poland weren't/aren't aware that this conflict began in 2014, not the end of last week.
Like I said, it's fucking awful for those caught up in it, but anybody worrying about the situation ending in a nuclear holocaust needs to seriously stay away from social media for the next 6 to 8 weeks until something new pops up to keep us occupied.
(, Tue 1 Mar 2022, 22:25, Reply)
This is a normal post You'd probably lose that wager. The annexation of Crimea was world news at the time. I don't know what evidence would sway you.
I think you are becoming dangerously detached and deranged. This isn't trolling, this is genuine concern.

I am not on social media. I'm on, like, 3 forums including b3ta, and I've not posted to either of the others in ages. I'm a strictly passive consumer of youtube. I talk to about 8 people using whatsapp. I'm strongly anti-social media. I recognise this situation as being fucking dangerous.

All it takes is one overzealous or incompetent tank commander, ship captain or fighter pilot to stray into NATO territory, and one overzealous or incompetent politician to overreact for WWIII to start by fucking default.
(, Tue 1 Mar 2022, 22:43, Reply)
This is a normal post Yet you posted that 'Ghost of Kyiv' video?
Perhaps I am detached. That's a bad thing now? What's the point of worrying about an unlikely nuclear holocaust of which have absolutely zero influence on? Worrying about that kind of shit is what gives you cancer (or ulcers, at the very least).
Would it suck? Undoubtedly. But worrying about it until it eventually happens isn't healthy, and neither is worrying about it indefinitely. Just get on with your life, if something awful happens tomorrow, at least you haven't wasted today panicking about it.
(, Tue 1 Mar 2022, 22:53, Reply)
This is a normal post Yet? As if the only way I can come across a video is by being in a facebook bubble? I'm trying to follow your logic, which seems quite distorted from my POV.
You're promoting political apathy. How has this happened to you?

You have power as part of the collective. You can influence things through engaging with the institutions and systems of society. You can learn real things from real media and education institutions.

You absolutely need to quit Alex Jones or C2C or Rense or Fox or Bannon or whatever slimy pus riddled rectovaginal fistula of the internet you're getting brainwashed by.
(, Tue 1 Mar 2022, 23:26, Reply)
This is a normal post "You absolutely need to quit Alex Jones or C2C or Rense or Fox or Bannon or whatever slimy pus riddled rectovaginal fistula of the internet you're getting brainwashed by."
Says the bloke blindly posting links to fake news/propaganda. U OK hun?
(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 12:56, Reply)
This is a normal post Could you point out the fake news or propaganda I posted?
I'm fully prepared to laugh at you if you say the Ghost of Kiev.

Are you willing to tell us from what right wing nut news source you're getting your links to Agent OXO?
(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 13:52, Reply)
This is a normal post Ghost of Kiev wasn't fake news/propaganda?
What would you describe it as?
(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 15:43, Reply)
This is a normal post An interesting tale, a remarkable bit of gossip.
The factual news element is that Ukranians are citing aircraft kills to 'The Ghost of Kiev.'

I don't think it was produced by Ukraine, but let me just double check that.

Apparently it was made by a young bloke called Joe from Portsmouth UK, whose favourite airport is Washington Dulles IAD.

www.youtube.com/c/Aviation18/about

Where did you learn about the wisdom of Agent OXO?
(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 17:39, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh, you're still hanging onto that old nugget?
That armoured vehicle was confirmed as being Russian then, was it? I must have missed that. Could you do me a favour and provide me with the link that conclusively identified it, please? Perhaps you've become a bit distracted what with all the panicking, but my entire point about that armoured vehicle is that we shouldn't believe everything we read on Social Media. Rather apt that you'd bring it up in this particular thread, eh?

So you didn't post fake news? You posted "an interesting tale, a remarkable bit of gossip"? Come on now, birb. Behave. That's a reach, even for you.
(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 18:10, Reply)
This is a normal post I didn't think Joe from Portsmouth's youtube channel about airplanes was in danger of being mistaken for a news channel.
Where did you find your link to Agent OXO?
(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 19:29, Reply)
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You're going to hang on to the ghost story as being real, despite all the evidence to the contrary? Reading further into it the sources can't even seem to agree on what they supposedly shot down.
(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 16:23, Reply)
This is a normal post I posted the story because it was interesting
And I said I could believe a Ukranian kid spent his life in a flight sim, and that it is not impossible.

I think you're projecting.
(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 17:32, Reply)
This is a normal post You posted the story because you thought it was real.

(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 18:13, Reply)
This is a normal post It is a real story. Ukranians are citing aircraft kills to 'The Ghost Of Kiev.'
DW reported on it too. You can read their actual news report in the same thread.

The video of the old man being run over by the armoured vehicle is a real story too.

Of course all the details are sketchy. The first casualty of war and all that.
(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 19:34, Reply)
This is a normal post Of course it's a real story. The claims of it being a Russian vehicle have never been verified.
It's safe to say that that any claims of it being Russian or Ukrainian are unverified. It could even be a French AV. Nobody has gone public with a positive identification (suspiciously). Mind you, there was that bloke who wound the windows down, peeked his head in and confirmed it was being driven by Russians in Ukrainian costumes. So who knows.
The 'Ghost of Kyiv' story, on the other hand, is patently bollocks. Soz.
(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 22:32, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh right, well thanks for clearing that up. I guess a lot of people just fell through a cascading Mandela effect Might want to tell DW and the other news agencies reporting on it
and get on to all the traders now selling Ghost of Kiev merch that the universe those concepts belong to no longer exists.

Now that's sorted, where DID you find the link to Agent OXO?
(, Thu 3 Mar 2022, 0:08, Reply)
This is a normal post you have very little to lose though so your lack of concern is understandable

(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 10:06, Reply)
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Purely out of interest, which site has the ball shaving kit?
(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 0:00, Reply)
This is a normal post Podcasts in general. ;)

(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 0:23, Reply)
This is a normal post That make sense
If you're going to cast your pods, best to shave first.
(, Wed 2 Mar 2022, 0:32, Reply)