Pretty standard wish fulfillment, derived from classic stories.
You're very confident about human derivatives colonising, I don't have the same faith in humans.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Tue 12 Jul 2022, 16:36,
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I'm optimistic.
Industrial/technological advances in 3d printing and ISRU seem to point towards Von Neumann Probes becoming a reality:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_spacecraft
We need to turn to space to fix the problems of ecosystem collapse and asteroid strikes anyway. Fixing this planet will teach us how to fix others....
Once those issues are solved it's kind of inevitable that we will have to spread out somehow, unless we (or whichever species is dominant by then) decide it's best to all die when the sun expands.
I think it would be a terrible thing to let a good galaxy go to waste. If we are the first, or even the only life in our observable bubble then we are obliged to make use of it and to spread life and intelligence as far as we can. I can't think of a valid moral opposition to the idea.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Tue 12 Jul 2022, 17:47,
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Looking at the way people treat each other, let alone general competition between species.
That's a valid moral point, then there is the possibility of carrying microbes to the other planets' inhabitants.
I suppose it might be possible for a very tiny number of people using technologies as yet unknown, far into the future.
Whether non-biological humans could actually 'be' human is a discussion in itself.
I tried optimism once, it was awful.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Tue 12 Jul 2022, 23:27,
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Being human is overrated.
I think I am a biological machine, a meat robot, if you will. There's no such thing as the soul, nothing at all spiritually significant about being human rather than a sponge or a pineapple.
I think if I were to replace every part of you with equivalent or superior technology, piece by piece, even braincell by braincell, there would not come a point when you'd consider yourself less than human.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 0:25,
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That's really is a thought experiment, unlikely to become a reality.
I don't understand what is meant by a soul really, it's part of some old religious superstition.
The awareness of one's body through multiple networks (eg. More serotonin is present in the digestive system than in the brain), proprioception etc would have to be modelled.
An exact replica in metal is a fantasy.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 5:15,
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Does wearing a hearing aid,
or a pacemaker, or a titanium or plastic hip, make you less human?
If you use a telescope, or read a dictionary, or use a device to access information, does that make you less human?
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 14:42,
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cogitas ergo est
As far as we know our species is the only one to contemplate the idea of an immortal soul. We're probably wrong, but that still makes us special compared to other animals.
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jonbob loves you, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 7:10,
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Why do you assert that contemplating a false idea of inflated self importance makes one special?
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 14:19,
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"We need to turn to space to fix the problems of ecosystem collapse"
Because it's much easier than convincing humans to eat less meat, consume less and stop reproducing?
Why would you wish to export this cancerous parasitic form of life beyond this planet?
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 10:03,
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This is my fault for assuming everyone understands what I mean when I use words.
Without space technology we would not understand the predicament our ecosystem is in.
climate.nasa.gov/
Turning to space to fix the ecosystem means turning to space based observation of this planet's atmosphere compared to others, and acting on that knowledge.
It also means employing more technology to alleviate the effects of anthropomorphic climate change (sun shields, mirrors, moving polluting industry off-world, etc.).
You're not going to convince a species to stop reproducing, certainly not humans, and if you think of yourself as a cancer then I feel sorry for you.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 14:29,
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We already know what action is needed to fix ecosystems
The biggest obstacle is human behaviour. Developing those fancy technologies you mentioned will take too long and might lead to risk compensation. In any case, existing nature-based solutions are cheaper and less likely to have unexpected consequences.
Well, generation Alpha or Beta might produce an antinatalist Greta so there's still hope.
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 21:15,
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Just to reiterate, we only know of our problems because of data collected from space observation,
or to put it less controversially, evidence collected from weather and climate monitoring satellites confirms and falsifies purely ground/ocean based data, and reveals information that would otherwise go unrecorded. Evidence recorded from other planets in our solar system teaches us about our planet.
We have learned a great deal about our climate from space based observation, and we will continue to do so.
It's all very well saying a lentil weaving alternative would be better, but in the meantime we urgently need to avert the catastrophe we've been creating for the past couple of centuries. Vegan drum circles and yogic flying will not work.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Wed 13 Jul 2022, 22:14,
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Less technological solutions may work better for less rich countries.
There is a vast amount we don't know about how the natural world works. Why not fix that as well as exploring tech solutions which may cost so much as to be only useful for very small percentage of people.
Don't mix up superstitious or romantic free range yoghurt weaving with actual biology/chemistry/medicine etc.
The societies that gave rise to the amazing data collection also caused the problems.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Thu 14 Jul 2022, 2:21,
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