coloured skin ≠ progressive
having a vagina ≠ progressive
Idi Amin and Thatcher
having progressive policies and doing progressive thing = progressive
is there anything else you'd like cleaned up, apart from coloured vaginas?
as to the same sex marriage act 2013, this was drafted and introduced by the liberal democrat Lynne Featherstone, and all parties gave their MPs a free vote on it. 126 conservatives voted for the bill, while 134 voted against it. It passed with labour and the other parties voting majority for it. I'm not sure how you think this paints the Conservatives as progressive, though I guess Cameron allowing a free vote wins some minor points.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 20 Jul 2022, 23:55,
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having a vagina mdoes indeed ≠ progressive
but selecting someone with a vulva as party leader sadly still is, and Idi Amin wasn't an ethnic minority in Uganda. You could have used John Vorster as an example.
I do take your point, though, even if I still feel Labour is not managing to portray itself as a progressive, inclusive party.
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Tusk knows where you live, Thu 21 Jul 2022, 0:15,
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I think there's an american perspective about race that doesn't necesarily translate to other countries
there, generally black voters lean democrat, and blacks tend to lower socio-economic status, so that having more representation in your party is seen as progressive, aligning with things like affirmative action
In the UK the largest minority are indian and pakistani, and they're not generally of lower socio-economic status, and if anything their traditional views on cultural issues are more conservative than the median.
I guess the other thing is that there's no bible belt in the UK that the conservatives need to pander to. Guys like Cameron and Johnson are intertwined with The City, the financial hub, and the big media conglomerates (and were both ex-journos). Their policies have widened the gap, with the rich getting richer and the middle class and poor getting poorer. The opposite to this is progressive taxation that spreads the wealth more fairly, and less privatisation of public assets. They're not fighting the culture wars and personally I think don't give a fuck about it one way or the other, apart from some half-hearted bleating about wokeness to test if there's any votes in that
But, yes, labour have their own issues, but I think it's not getting more brown faces but finding someone with a fucking spine that's not so terrified of putting some 'boro brexit voting blockhead offside that they can't call out it's obvious shitness and offer a solution.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Thu 21 Jul 2022, 0:39,
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You get a click just for using 'boro correctly.
The fact that I tend to agree with the rest of what you wrote is incidental.
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jonbob loves you, Thu 21 Jul 2022, 4:02,
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cheers,
in the early days I followed a blogger calling himself the Teesmouth, and a big boro supporter. had a regular gig writing for bbc sport before he got the axe
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Thu 21 Jul 2022, 13:44,
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Free flights to Rwanda = super progressive
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Thu 21 Jul 2022, 1:53,
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Cameron was a vocal supporter of Section 28 a couple of years earlier
Gay marriage was simply a way to shed the nasty party image whilst holding on to 99% of the nasty policies
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Which again begs the question
why didn't Labour introduce this when they were in power? I know Tony Blair was to busy with the wholesale slaughter of Iraqis, but surely Gordon Brown could have found the time?
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Tusk knows where you live, Thu 21 Jul 2022, 15:18,
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Fucking hell
Do you know anything about this? Have you heard of Section 28? Civil partnerships? That's what they were doing. Dismantling all the openly homophobic shite the tories had brought in over the previous 20 years
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