Today is Ukrainian Independence Day
And they are not going quietly into the night...
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They had an opportunity to speak directly to Russian citizens,
to try to persuade them that their media is peddling a lie and that the invasion is unjust. To try to get their sympathy. To spread doubt in the minds of the population of their aggressors. Instead they chose to piss them off.
Good job chucklefucks. Good. Fucking. Job.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Wed 24 Aug 2022, 20:17,
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If only you were commanding Ukraine's signals intelligence division this war would be over and Putin would be hanging from a lamp post.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Wed 24 Aug 2022, 22:21,
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they don't seem too upset from this vid
"HELLO RUSSIANS. PUTIN IS BAD. HE LIES. WE UKRAINIANS ARE THE GOOD GUYS. LISTEN TO THIS COMPUTER SPEAKER."
I'm sure the war would be over in days if they'd done this.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Thu 25 Aug 2022, 3:37,
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That’s exactly the sort of direct, black & white approach I was arguing against.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Thu 25 Aug 2022, 6:50,
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i might make the following points
* that perhaps people aren't going to hang around as you build your subtle thesis filled with persuasive allegory and subtextual nuance as it suddenly cuts in unwanted to their cafe pc speakers like it's some Radio 4 show
* that despite your hopes pretty much every "persuade the enemy" propaganda campaign has been mostly ineffectual, from Lord haw haw to leafleting the vietcong from b52s
* even if a few barristas thought, "hey, this anonymous voice suddenly coming out of my speakers has a point", they're not really in any position to do much about it, it being a repressive semi-dictatorship and all
* and lastly, that rather than thinking of it as failed propaganda, it's possibly that it's succeeding in doing exactly what it intended. Like the probably apocryphal "fuck you" from the snake island defenders, it's purpose may be to boost morale of the ukrainians by showing them small acts of defiance against a powerful enemy in dark times, which is why its just a few web cam clips
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Thu 25 Aug 2022, 7:52,
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sorry, wherethefish, came off a bit stronger than I intended
I tend to think as you do, that if only I had a chance to talk to these people who believe false things I could open their eyes. But I guess life has made me more of a pessimist in this
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 26 Aug 2022, 5:13,
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Anybody who hasn't worked out that RT is full of lies is probably not much use.
People like believing crap, look at our politics.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Thu 25 Aug 2022, 17:01,
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I think what they've done is brilliant.
I imagine that pro war russians are so brainwashed that trying to tell them that they're wrong would just make them more feverent in their belief of russian propaganda.
I see this as a gentle prank that shows Russians that the authorities do not have the total control that they would have them believe they do and that Ukrainians are people not so different to them, demonstrating simultaneously their national pride and their sense of humour.
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2 Can Chunder Word to your mums — I came to prod bums, Thu 25 Aug 2022, 23:59,
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