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This is a normal post So no blood on his hands then.

(I helped save b3ta! brb Monkhouse Stampede, Sat 30 Dec 2023, 20:13, Reply)
This is a normal post Not literally, no.
"Sponsored eco-engineering competition" seems like a good shout, even if it's being run by fossil fuel people. For a long time in the 1990s, it looked like some of fossil fuels giants were investing in good renewable projects - Shell did some great work with algae as a biofuel source, IIRC... But it turns out they were also lobbying to keep the status quo as long as possible. Who knew? :|
Fuel-efficient diesel engines seemed like a good idea while ICE vehicles were still the norm - but it turned out the car companies were cooking the test results. Who knew? :|

I think we all deserve the chance to put stuff right if we make a mistake, especially when liers are lying to us.
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 12th Level Errorer, Sun 31 Dec 2023, 9:51, Reply)
This is a normal post It's not news that the fossil fuel lobby have been lobbying for fossil fuels.
It's almost like you're arguing that nobody realised oil companies produced oil until 2023.
 (I helped save b3ta! brb Monkhouse Stampede, Mon 1 Jan 2024, 16:03, Reply)