Epstein was a paedophile?
I knew he was sex-trafficking underage girls, but not literal infants. When was that?
Edit: Wait! You're being hyperbolic again, aren't you?
(, Sat 22 Nov 2025, 8:09, Reply)
people who fuck kids are paedos.
epstein both fucked kids, and groomed them for other people to fuck
the reason why fucking kids is fucking awful isnt hyperbole, it's because rather than it being some normal natural thing it fucks them up for life in a way that few other things do. Giuffre might be able to better explain to you this concept that seems to be absent in your efforts to minimise it, but despite getting several million pound hush payment from Andrew she killed herself.
Still, you're welcome to follow your natural urges and fuck a 12 year old, and then protest to the inmates in the Scrubs your nuanced categorisation system of kiddy fiddling that means you don't think you're a paedo
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 22 Nov 2025, 9:15,
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People erroneously label Epstein a paedophile because it's more sensational than 'sex trafficker of vulnerable young women'.
(, Sat 22 Nov 2025, 9:22, Reply)
they weren't women, they were legally children
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Invisible Wizard - 12th Level Errorer, Sat 22 Nov 2025, 9:23,
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maybe, and I'm just going to throw this out there,
rather than being motivated by sensationalism, there's actually a real, deep and widespread cultural aversion to kiddy fucking that for reasons we can only speculate you don't seem to share.
That is, people think it's one of the worst things you can do, for good reason
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 22 Nov 2025, 10:06,
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Interesting you should mention that
You know that the term paedophilia is commonly used to refer to all criminally underage sex?
Yes, there's a clinical distinction between paedophilia and hebophillia and ephebophillia - but not a big legal one. Sentencing guidelines taking into account moral outrage, that sort of thing.
It's not a good look to make these distinctions, except maybe when you're the judge passing sentence.
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Invisible Wizard - 12th Level Errorer, Sat 22 Nov 2025, 9:23,
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I couldn't give a fuck how it looks.
What I give a fuck about is people watering down the concept of paedophilia to include victims that aren't anywhere near to meeting the clinical or pathological definition just so that they can falsely augment the severity of an offender's offending in return for more clicks/outrage.
Epstein was a nonce. He's done enough horrible, nasty shit as it is. We don't need to manufacture more horrible nasty shit. Doing so suggests that the *actual* horrible nasty shit he was doing wasn't sufficiently horrible/nasty enough.
Epstein was a bad man, but let's not act like he was Ian Watkins raping literal babies and toddlers bad. That does a massive fucking disservice to those victims.
(, Sat 22 Nov 2025, 9:33, Reply)
This is the only near sensible thing you've posted today
I agree, there's a difference - but all your prior posts make it look like you think that sex trafficking underage teen girls for rape *wasn't very bad*.
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Invisible Wizard - 12th Level Errorer, Sat 22 Nov 2025, 9:40,
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Of course it's bad.
But calling him a paedophile almost serves to obfuscate the crimes that he was *actually* guilty of, which does nobody any favours. Particularly his actual victims.
Anyway, back to my original point. None of these 'files' or 'lists' we're going to get access to is going to make us any of the wiser. It's all just salacious misdirection to keep the tabloid readers distracted.
(, Sat 22 Nov 2025, 9:47, Reply)
Advice, if you want to recover from this episode of seeming nonce apologism
- stop calling the victims underage young *women*
They were legally children. Some as young as 14.
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Invisible Wizard - 12th Level Errorer, Sat 22 Nov 2025, 9:52,
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the lawsuit against his virgin island place has some as young as 11
dozens of young girls were held captive and raped by the men Epstein flew in. one who lodged her story tried to escape by swimming the open sea from little st james. Epsten organised a search party to recapture her and confiscate her passport.
but hey, didnt that fox news megyn kelly say it wasn't a big deal and they all looked old, that's the sentiment tony will get behind
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 22 Nov 2025, 10:19,
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Yeah but he wasn't convicted of those so I was assuming they don't count
I gives me a headache just trying to think down to that level
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Invisible Wizard - 12th Level Errorer, Sat 22 Nov 2025, 12:14,
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I'm starting to get SockCooker vibes.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sat 22 Nov 2025, 16:19,
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