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This is a normal post I don't think that there's anything illiberal about the smoking ban.
It isn't actually a smoking ban, after all: it's more of an inflicting-your-smoke-on-others ban, and that looks wholly socially liberal.

My worry about this is that it'll be hijacked by a bunch of chinless right-wing economic liberals, libertarians, and the Taxpayers Alliance.
(, Thu 1 Jul 2010, 10:52, Reply)
This is a normal post
yes wholly socially liberal.lets wreck the social lives of millions of tax payers so some miserable dirty self righteous arses can go another day without washing or changing their clothes.
Nevermind people getting jailed, shot, raped and stabbed to death over this insane ban, or pensioners wasting away alone at home instead of spending their last days with their mates at social clubs and bingo halls.You're saving a small fortune in soap and laundry bills.
Its illiberal because business owners aren't being given a choice.Its their pub/club.Staff it with smokers and cater to smokers and rational non-smokers who take regular showers.They won't give us that choice because they know the smoking pubs will be heaving and your sterile gastro pub will be virtually empty until they allow smokers back.
Notice they haven't just banned tobacco.No - us smokers are handy cash cows.We pay more in taxes than we take out of the kitty.It's the lettuce-munching tea-total do-nothing-risky shits that are a burden on the state.
And theres nothing deadly in secondhand smoke.Its a pack of lies and propaganda.
A gay mate of mine made a fine point.If they banned gays because their stinky cockbreath had been proven to give people AIDS using the same twisted science thats been used to demonise smokers,there'd be fucking uproar from the likes of stonewall.
I think its only a matter of time before we get the choice of smoking pubs.The ban is being flouted all over Germany apparently.
(, Thu 1 Jul 2010, 12:21, Reply)
This is a normal post Hahaha
You're a brilliant satirist. A bit close to the bone though.
(, Thu 1 Jul 2010, 12:37, Reply)
This is a normal post Your statement is amazing. I don't know where to start. It's like a ouroboros of lies, propoganda and fuckwittery

(, Thu 1 Jul 2010, 12:38, Reply)
This is a normal post Quite.

(, Thu 1 Jul 2010, 13:09, Reply)
This is a normal post poe lols
yeah, if aids was airborn i'm sure there'd be unroar about keeping people with it out of pubs.
rather than say, global lockdown, international panic, and no one really giving a shit about pubs at all.
(, Thu 1 Jul 2010, 14:59, Reply)
This is a normal post whats illiberal is not allowing any smoking pubs or bars

(, Thu 1 Jul 2010, 14:38, Reply)