
but Ghandi was one of the biggest inhibitors of the modern development of India. Also, if all fox hunting activity was banned, then cute lully dogs would invitably need to put down if good homes are not found. Not saying it is totally justified to hunt and outnumber foxes, and there must be ways of controlling them. As they need to be, but there are implications for everything involved. The dogs, horses, equestrian industry. This kind of story always reminds me of the animal rights activists who let cages of mink loose, causing more damage to the local wildlife and environment than a fur coat ever would. There must be balance.
And even funnier, I am watching mongrels at the moment which stars a fox.
You know I love you, Mr Toast
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 23:03, Reply)

and try and find some common sense, you are left with most of what the video is about. Is it healthy for human beings to be making a ritual out of destroying life? I personally don't think so. That is all 'the hunt' seems to be doing. You would have to be a right prick to think any of that is done by that lot to control a nuisance to farmers and livestock. They are there for the thrill of the hunt.
I couldn't agree more about idiots who 'liberate' minx into non-native environments; but it's not really the same thing; they will have to be destroyed before to much damage is done; yet I don't sense by lots of horsemen with trumpets and a pack of dogs bred, maintained, and excused for the soul purpose of tearing apart an animal 'in the name of tradition.'
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 23:19, Reply)

what do we do with killer whales? they kill for sport, as do some dolphin groups (known attacks on porpoises IIRC).
the point I'd make is, yes, we should know better as a species, but some people like to do it. [it: hunt foxes with dogs]
so, at what point is it my right to stop another from doing what they enjoy when no other human is being hurt (in a legal sense, let's ignore the secondary psychological effect)?
what solution? animal rights? rediculous. ban on things untasteful to others? a dangerous approach.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 23:28, Reply)

Sorry chap, none of that makes the slightest bit of sense to what you replied to
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 23:36, Reply)

ignore that bit, if you like. that's there to illustrate that hunting for sport is not unique to humans.
I'm asking you where do you draw the lines here?
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 23:39, Reply)

however humans, uniquely, have the power to stop doing it. Animals do not.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 23:44, Reply)

but I tend to agree, it does appear to be a uniquely human trait ;D
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 23:47, Reply)

off to bed methinks :)
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 23:49, Reply)

sort of springs to mind, but I think I'm in danger of coming across as some animal right's nutter a bit to furiously to continue; I respect what you guys have said; I shall now grab another ale and watch a few episodes of Rome before bed :)
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 23:50, Reply)

and I shall try to not act like red coat wearing nutter who might say:
"I'll shout at you on a message board, because I'm entitled!"
take 'er easy ;)
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 23:56, Reply)

While it may seem pointless to us when a killer whale attacks prey without eating it there's no way we can actually understand why it's doing it, hence the argument is void...
( , Wed 14 Jul 2010, 0:01, Reply)

..I appear to be picking on you, and I apologise.
Please do not let it stop you from posting photographs and videos of interesting and cute animals! that would be A Bad Thing! :D
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 23:49, Reply)

The similarity is (re mink) the amount of propaganda that churns out from both sides. Foxes are a nuisance. Really. Ok, farmers get all uppity about foxes killing their chickens, sheep and other livestock. But it is their livelyhood.
But there is never any balance to it. Fuck the farmers and their money making schemes, and want to protect their interest. Hunting is not the way, but the subject of foxes should be adressed still. And watching emotive violent videos are not, in my opinion, the way forward. And you are alright. No fox is gonna fuck with what you deal with.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 23:32, Reply)

There is plenty to be said in favour of his suggestion that industrialisation and development needn't be centralised in massive cities with ghettos and can be accomplished using the community you have at hand.
( , Wed 14 Jul 2010, 0:43, Reply)

And only allowing trade within his own country, using primitive tools for doing so, not allowing the use of any modern machinery. His chosen symbol was the spinning wheel. Anywho it is far too late, I should be in bed really.
Love you.
*kisses forehead*
( , Wed 14 Jul 2010, 0:52, Reply)