Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Carmen Basilio 1 HD
Being able to see them so clearly is rare for old footage. you can appreciate their ability much better than with most of the stuff available.
maybe worth a watch even if you're not a massive boxing fan.
(sugar ray robinson as widely regarded as one of the greatest boxers of all time (in terms of resume certainly the best))
probably better to watch with the sound off.
(, Sat 5 Mar 2011, 16:31, Reply)
Christ...
They really didn't bother with blocking in those days did they? I've seen modern matches ended by MUCH less than some of the blows they're taking in that match.
I remember seeing a clip of Archie Moore VS. Rocky Marciano. It was literally like watching Rocky. No blocking, no weaving, just a total, utter slug fest. If I remember correctly, Moore was one of only two boxers to knock Marciano down.
Bunch of pansies these days...
Edited for fact checking.
(, Sat 5 Mar 2011, 17:52, Reply)
There's quite a bit of body work, so low hands probably serves to block a fair amount
It's true to say that quite a lot landed though (loads of jabs), especially as they started to fatigue towards the end.
One thing to note however is how they roll with punches, it's not just about landing but landing heavily. if you're leaning away or moving with the punch it'll probably cause less harm than first appears.
edit: also lots of boxers (modern and old) will keep their hands low to allow them to counter more fluidly. sergio martinez for instance.
(, Sat 5 Mar 2011, 18:12, Reply)
Is that Welterweight ?
It's a shame a bout the music, but the long rounds and losing won't make me rich attitude shines.
Also, Sugar Baby was a dancer, not a boxer; or so he would say. Lovely bloke from what I have heard and his politeness was legendary. My love of boxing fizzled about the same time as attitude and big entrances started becoming the norm; but I have always been drawn to the amateur scene - great bouts to watch and the lads are always humble both in victory and defeat. I think perhaps this is why it isn't big sport on the telly, the people bashing each other aren't what the public expect and when they are, the boxing fans don't like it .I should have really given it a go... may well do one day...we'll see, the hill is only 3 years away.
Anyways, have dance:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd70iqK_bsU
and a respectful post-bout interview
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy2VD5WlmEU
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zacherynuk @echo off, Sat 5 Mar 2011, 21:27,
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Much of what you say is true
But you'll probably find there are more gentlemen in boxing than arseholes.
The real reason why boxing isn't on TV is because itv and the bbc were stupid enough to give big multi fight deals to boxers who hadn't even fought a single professional bout (harrison, khan), which is obviously retarded, and were hurt when it all blew up.
they dont take risks and can't see the potential in a sport which had massive cultural significance for over a hundred years in this country. They wouldn't even know how to promote it or what to buy.
it's sad.
(, Sun 6 Mar 2011, 1:04, Reply)