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Musicians will continue making music, let's buy it directly from them or let them get revenue from a streaming music service.
If a few thousand people lose their jobs, well that's sad, but technology has a way of doing that.
There's a whole infrastructure of admin, press and bullshit related to the music industry that the world can happily do without.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:33,
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i'm a shepherd
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:40,
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so theres
no one in the sheep industry who does admin?
theres no press or magazines devoted to those who shepard and need sheparding tools?
cos according to your logic...they could all just do with getting fired?
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Yes, being a shepherd is very much like the music industry.
Infact, they're identical.
Glad we cleared this up.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:48,
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so its the about what they create
one industry creates music, the other food?
im sorry why are people who facilitate music less job deserving than those who facilitate anything else?
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Some interesting thought provoking viewpoints up there^
hadn't really thought of it that way, but is this therefore the death of the big multi-million concert/tour and the like!?
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..wil, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:41,
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I doubt it, the big sellers will always have sponsorship/endoresements etc.
As well as money from merchandising should they wish to sell it.
Just a few thoughts, as I see it.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:45,
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Not something
any chap could do from home on his own tho, is it, really? Is what I mean. If the big music companies fell, we would lose the whole multimillion concert with huge sets, lavish videos, merchandising and tours thing, surely? You need paid staff, advertising, organising and enacting ticket sales and all of that for all that to happen, being a musician would forever be a poor man's game done purely as a hobby if all that went away... ?
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..wil, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:55,
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Not from day one, no
But its not necessarily out of reach of the ordinary fella, via sponsorship etc. It would take longer and require a massive amount of personal risk, but that's being a business-person. Which is what the independant musician has to be.
Your list is quite telling though - all we're losing here is industry. None of this has anything to do with music, all these things are the accoutrements (sp?) of the mythology the industry has built up. Take it all away and you're still left with a band and their songs, a will to perform and an audience. Which is all you need.
*edit* Also mythology - the concept that a hobby musician is not a musician until he is in the employ of the music industry! I've bought albums in the last three years that were written, funded and released by people who had to work on building sites to put them out and will have continue to do so to continue paying for them. Most of them, in terms of musicianship and integrity, outstrip most of what you could take off the shelves in HMV. :)
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Throat And Ice Pie I see dem tatties dere., Tue 7 Jun 2011, 14:13,
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Well I think we should get the ball rolling by you posting links to your own music/site/shop and anyone else you'd like to share.
Huzzah!
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 14:25,
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Haha.
I'll be run out of town as a spamcunt. :). See profile if you're interested, its not on the whole B3ta's cup of tea so I don't tend to bang on too much. Have posted the odd track in the past though.
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Throat And Ice Pie I see dem tatties dere., Tue 7 Jun 2011, 14:31,
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Don't be silly, no one will mind, just post a whole lot of indie music artists you know as well as your own.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 14:33,
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Righty hoi.
www.myspace.com/fraseranderson
www.myspace.com/theexistenceofharveylord
www.myspace.com/eftm
People who I think have put out outstanding music at one point or another completely under their own steam. All a matter of taste though innit.
Me:
soundcloud.com/jamesedgeandthemindstep
Also loads of people one here. Tickle, for example, has been posting some great stuff recently.
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Throat And Ice Pie I see dem tatties dere., Tue 7 Jun 2011, 15:12,
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An indepenent artist can easily use Youtube and other free sites to get their name and music out there.
As well as sell their own merchandise, mp3's, tunics etc.
But you're right, tours, festivals etc require money, and where does it come from?
Not from some guy living on beans with his casio keyboard.
So, I don't know. Some form of corporate sponsorship I suppose, you can't get away from them.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 14:20,
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gonna sound like cunt when i say this....
your enthusiasm for change is enviable,
your understanding of the way works is un-reaslistic and focuses around what YOU do....assuming that all people are similar to you,
whats good for the goose isn't good for the gander.
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