Super-low flyby not fake
That insane flyby that was posted earlier in the week isn't fake according to gizmondo, who've got hold of a cockpit cam view of the stunt. Pilot clearly has a deathwish (for his crewmates).
( , Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:05, Reply)
That insane flyby that was posted earlier in the week isn't fake according to gizmondo, who've got hold of a cockpit cam view of the stunt. Pilot clearly has a deathwish (for his crewmates).
( , Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:05, Reply)
This was posted on Tuesday.
It's still impressive flying.
The Argentinians were always good at low level flying - they did it during the Falklands War. The problem with it was that they were dropping the bombs so low, they didn't have chance to arm before hitting the ship they were targeting, resulting in some of them being disarmed. Obviously, that wasn't the case for all of them, though.
Apparently, they even flew between masts on some of the Navy ships.
( , Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:30, Reply)
It's still impressive flying.
The Argentinians were always good at low level flying - they did it during the Falklands War. The problem with it was that they were dropping the bombs so low, they didn't have chance to arm before hitting the ship they were targeting, resulting in some of them being disarmed. Obviously, that wasn't the case for all of them, though.
Apparently, they even flew between masts on some of the Navy ships.
( , Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:30, Reply)
oh , 'pologies links folk
Got a 'maybe' from the linkchecker.
/hangs head
BombayMick: that's crazy - were they flying low to avoid radar or fire? Or were they just being crazy showoffs?
( , Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:35, Reply)
Got a 'maybe' from the linkchecker.
/hangs head
BombayMick: that's crazy - were they flying low to avoid radar or fire? Or were they just being crazy showoffs?
( , Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:35, Reply)
The other link was on liveleak, so no worries. Difficult to spot when it's like that.
They were flying that low for a mix of all 3.
What really scuppered them was the overall tactics they employed - attack the ships, not the planes. It gave the Harriers free-reign to take them down - we would have probably lost otherwise.
( , Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:37, Reply)
They were flying that low for a mix of all 3.
What really scuppered them was the overall tactics they employed - attack the ships, not the planes. It gave the Harriers free-reign to take them down - we would have probably lost otherwise.
( , Thu 9 Jun 2011, 11:37, Reply)
Well partly
They demonstrated a fearsome anti-shipping capability but deployed it against the wrong ships. If they'd concentrated on the aircraft carriers it would have been pretty much game over.
The air combat stats on the other hand were pretty decisively in favour of the Harrier.
( , Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:02, Reply)
They demonstrated a fearsome anti-shipping capability but deployed it against the wrong ships. If they'd concentrated on the aircraft carriers it would have been pretty much game over.
The air combat stats on the other hand were pretty decisively in favour of the Harrier.
( , Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:02, Reply)
My understanding
is that they were going for the carriers, but ship recognition at 50ft and over 1,000 mph while being shot at is a tricky business. The Sea Harriers did very well though considering how slow they are.
( , Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:26, Reply)
is that they were going for the carriers, but ship recognition at 50ft and over 1,000 mph while being shot at is a tricky business. The Sea Harriers did very well though considering how slow they are.
( , Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:26, Reply)
Its tricky to give a full account of reasons
on a touchscreen phone from a toilet stall but here goes:
The Argentine Air Force never got close enough to the Carrier fleet to bomb them, using Beyond Visual Range Exocet missiles which, while deadly enough, could be spoofed, and which were targetted via radar. A Carrier looks like any other large vessel on a radar screen, meaning the pilots have to make an educated guess based upon the ships position within the fleet. Any competent Admiral will know this and shuffle accordingly.
Those ships that were bombed were either acting as screen ships and therefore distant from the fleet (HMS Coventry) or were supporting the land invasion in and around San Carlos (HMS Ardent). While difficult to identify from low-level they're only ever going to be Frigates, Destroyers or Amphibious Assault vessels.
( , Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:00, Reply)
on a touchscreen phone from a toilet stall but here goes:
The Argentine Air Force never got close enough to the Carrier fleet to bomb them, using Beyond Visual Range Exocet missiles which, while deadly enough, could be spoofed, and which were targetted via radar. A Carrier looks like any other large vessel on a radar screen, meaning the pilots have to make an educated guess based upon the ships position within the fleet. Any competent Admiral will know this and shuffle accordingly.
Those ships that were bombed were either acting as screen ships and therefore distant from the fleet (HMS Coventry) or were supporting the land invasion in and around San Carlos (HMS Ardent). While difficult to identify from low-level they're only ever going to be Frigates, Destroyers or Amphibious Assault vessels.
( , Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:00, Reply)