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This is a normal post Well the managers took over, did a crap job and golden handshakes to leave.
The pharmaceutical companies bribed G.Ps with free gifts if they prescribed their products.
Cleaning was passed over from unionised workers to private companies who then sub- contracted.

Matrons with taken off the ward leaving nurses and doctors to try and manage wards themselves.

Catering budgets were slashed meaning people are actually leaving hospital malnourished.

For me the NHS died a long time ago, this is just a shell and people do it no favours pretending that the NHS now is some beacon for healthcare.

The Tories started the rot last time they were in power and Labour finished it off.
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 15:56, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes
it's much better to pay for private health care. I'm looking forward to the future as a self-employed person finding out how much my private insurance will be. Fuck the shoddy service we get now from the rubbish NHS, let's close it down and give people what they actually want.
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 16:17, Reply)
This is a normal post How's the view from up there?
Why is it when someone doesn't side with one side of an argument they assume that you automatically are pro the other side?

You seem to be under the impression I approve and want an end to to social care.
I don't, but i'm not going to pretend what we've had for the past 20-30 years was a proper social health care system.

Give me the power to change things and i'ld tax the private hospitals to the hilt, not allow G.P's to work for the private sector until they've served a certain amount of years and paid back to the state what the state paid to train them. Make sure private hospitals take care of the patient from start to finish and not do what they do now and skimp on the recuperative care and fob that off on the NHS.

I would also put out of business with punitive fines any company that takes on a NHS contract job and fails in it's care of duty. I would also prosecute with corporate man slaughter any CEO's who's company has caused deaths in this manner.

People who think what we've had is proper social healthcare probably also think the last labour government was a proper labour one and if a few years of having to pay for healthcare is what it takes for people to wake up and demand social healthcare then so be it.
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 16:35, Reply)
This is a normal post Bollocks
I've had to rely heavily on the NHS since the early 80's and I can assure you that it was awful, and I mean really awful under the tory party and improved immeasurably under Labour by comparison. I think people forget just how bad it used to be. No problem though as in a couple of years time they should get it back to how it was.
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 19:36, Reply)
This is a normal post Both my parents have had heart surgery under the NHS and the quality of their care was awesome.
Really nice folks working for the NHS under (I imagine) often difficult circumstances and bureaucracy.
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 21:39, Reply)