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This is a normal post but it's illegally owned guns that are the problem.
making them any more illegal isn't going to make them disappear.
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 10:50, Reply)
This is a normal post Trouble is, guns last for a very long time
they don't often need replacing.

All this would do would create a trade in illegal weapons where there currently doesn't need to be much, so make gangsters wealthier and gangs more violent, just like any kind of prohibition has over the years.
 (MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 10:54, Reply)
This is a normal post exactly.

(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 11:01, Reply)
This is a normal post so mass murderers never go on the rampage with legally held weapons?

(benito vaselini no not that one, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 11:08, Reply)
This is a normal post I don't have the statistics for that,
but I suspect gangland killings and armed robberies are by far the bigger problem.
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 11:12, Reply)
This is a normal post take this guy, for instance,
he's killed 15 people and it's got on the news and it's shocked everybody.

US-wide there are on average about 35 deaths by shooting a day.
(12,632 in 2007 according to Wikipedia)
EDIT: homicides only, not including accidents or suicide
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 11:17, Reply)
This is a normal post Assuming that most gangland killings and armed robberies are carried out with illegal weapons?

(benito vaselini no not that one, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 11:25, Reply)
This is a normal post see if you can find out
www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/163496.pdf
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 11:30, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm not entirely sure what your point is.
That it's easy to obtain a gun illegally in America?

Yes, I agree.
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:08, Reply)
This is a normal post my point is that probably most crime is committed with illegally acquired guns.
I can't prove it, but it seems likely to me. Why bother complying with the law to get a gun if you're only going to break the law with it anyway, and it's that easy?

Secondly, it doesn't really matter that much how the criminal gangs got the guns, if gun ownership were made totally illegal, they would still have the guns. Only law-abiding citizens would hand their guns in.
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:12, Reply)
This is a normal post my exhaustive scholarly research watching episodes of CSI bears this out
legally bought guns would be much easier to trace through ballistic examinaion, so only stupid criminals would buy one through normal channels.

Obviously this doesn't stop crimes of passion, but as I've commented elsewhere, I doubt the lack of a firearm would stop someone who really wants to kill someone.
 (Stonkwood Pipes made me do it, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:48, Reply)
This is a normal post the law should really concentrate on solving the kind of problems that happen all the time,
not the occasional one-offs that get in the news.
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 12:57, Reply)