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This is a normal post The more I get in to JS, the more beautiful I find it
A chap I used to work with often told me I should learn LISP, said I'd find it very Zen. I think I know what he means now.

Javascript isn't meant to be object oriented, but it helps if you a) write in a semi object-oriented way and b) forget anything you ever knew about C++, Java, Python...

(Saying that, I'm stuck in hell today, debugging and extending some JS I wrote 6 months ago, it may as well have been written by a gibbon using just his left elbow)
 (MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:46, Reply)
This is a normal post funnily enough I also code using my elbows
...that may explain quite a lot
 (I helped save b3ta! wideeye slightly pickled, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:50, Reply)
This is a normal post And that's why JS is shit
For those exact reasons, lack of encapsulation means it's a maintenance clusterfuck. Write once, run away and try and forget it Many.

Such a shame browsers don't have a propah langwidge
 (I helped save b3ta! simbosan is too tired, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 18:14, Reply)
This is a normal post Ahem
Closures
 (spunkyD, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 19:00, Reply)
This is a normal post But closures are just syntactic sugar, really.

(Pie of Meat ___°¬¯O¯____\o/_____/\_,____Y¯¯Y, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 20:11, Reply)
This is a normal post Syntactic sugar that good developers use to avoid a maintenance clusterfuck
and because it's nice to do things well
 (spunkyD, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 20:16, Reply)
This is a normal post Nah. They just help you write less code.
It doesn't make any real difference to your maintenance. Once you need to do anything complex in the closure, you're better of splitting it out into a proper function anyway.

JavaScript can be used well, of course it can; but it's a lot like C or C++: it takes a lot of discipline to use well. And the end result will still perform like a dog's breakfast.
 (Pie of Meat ___°¬¯O¯____\o/_____/\_,____Y¯¯Y, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 20:28, Reply)
This is a normal post They are far from syntactic sugar.
They let you nest all kinds of code, callback and events, yet still get back out to a class based scope for sanity/maintainability.
 (MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 21:35, Reply)
This is a normal post What makes you think this can't be done any other way?
(And sensibly, not doing crazily complicated stuff.)
 (Pie of Meat ___°¬¯O¯____\o/_____/\_,____Y¯¯Y, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 21:38, Reply)
This is a normal post Also, there are always several ways of doing something in any language
The trick to maintainability is picking the right way. Hindsight's always a bit of a bugger here...
 (MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 22:23, Reply)
This is a normal post In many languages, there are often several sensible ways of doing something.
Not necessarily any single *right* way.
 (Pie of Meat ___°¬¯O¯____\o/_____/\_,____Y¯¯Y, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 1:42, Reply)
This is a normal post Closures are a memory/performance nightmare

(I helped save b3ta! simbosan is too tired, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 21:34, Reply)
This is a normal post well, no, 6 months ago, i was shit at js
But thought i was good. Now i'm ok and think i can be better. Closures, bind, call, collections, signals, they all wrap each other beautifully now, where before i was trying all kinds of things with classes, prototypes and basically creating an unmaintainable mess.
 (MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 21:33, Reply)