Murder trial in Manchester.
I have been following this one for a while now and the chav accused of shooting this foreign student dead is now showing off in court trying to make out what a hard-man he is(nt). I wonder how those in the legal system (police/judges/solicitors/stenographers/etc) do their job day after day when many of the people they deal with are just like this person.
EDIT: I was originally wondering how many other people like him are wandering around the streets doing similarly awful things?
From the self-confessed killer: "I love prison. I get to watch Coronation Street. It's got a phat canteen.... Lock me up. Does this face look bothered?'
(, Mon 9 Jul 2012, 17:32, Reply)
Hmmm. I think the term you're looking for is 'narcissistic psychopath.'
I'm not sure he's the type of person who would respond well to being taught a lesson in any kind of penal system. All you can do is lock them up.
(, Mon 9 Jul 2012, 17:38, Reply)
You forgot to mention Court Clerks.
Everyone forgets us :(
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t0ria has forgotten how this all works, Mon 9 Jul 2012, 17:44,
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I'm working on this case
So if you can wait a couple of weeks until its finished I'll tell you exactly what we think!
By the way we don't have stenographers any more, they all got made redundant and replaced with computers.
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t0ria has forgotten how this all works, Mon 9 Jul 2012, 18:22,
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I argued the defense for a capital murder case before a state supreme court.
Heinous crime and unrepentant perpetrator. At least under the U.S. system, I am ethically bound to assure that all possible rights are asserted and all reasonable arguments are presented.
It took the court a while (which means I did my job), but after a few months, they affirmed his life sentence.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Mon 9 Jul 2012, 17:49,
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Is it permissable to say
"I can see no violation of his rights, neither can I see a reasonable argument in his defense."?
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Lord Keeps meaning to procrastinate., Mon 9 Jul 2012, 18:00,
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There are always rights to defend. Even if it's as simple as a jurisdictional question, impropriety in initial questioning, or that the sentence handed down was excessive or not supported by evidence in the record.
It was not easy. I had to read reams of police, victim and medical testimony, which was sickening. But, as an officer of the court, you put those things aside and focus on assuring that under the law, all rights are defended.
Now, this is in no way to defend shyster lawyers who will say or do anything to get a client off. Ethics runs both ways.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Mon 9 Jul 2012, 18:07,
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I've seen all those American court room films, you lot get every guilty person off scot-free.
Morals, pah!
(, Mon 9 Jul 2012, 18:09, Reply)
Funny thing is I can't even watch most of those movies/films because they're inaccurate.
A good example is The Firm. He was soo worried about not violating attorney-client privilege, but the Rules state that if you know your client is lying or testifying falsely, you must report it to the court.
Now, had the script been changed to: "It was the mob, they kill people, I'm a people, I don't want to be killed", I could have enjoyed it more.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Mon 9 Jul 2012, 18:24,
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I never watch courtroom stuff either
as it makes me so cross. Did you know judges in Britain have never used gavels? No? Neither do tv producers.
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t0ria has forgotten how this all works, Mon 9 Jul 2012, 18:59,
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Hahahaha.
They do in the states, but it's like every doctor wearing a stethoscope. Without them, they just couldn't be a doctor.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Mon 9 Jul 2012, 19:33,
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I hope he gets locked up with a cell mate like Avocado from Prison Break
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Mon 9 Jul 2012, 17:52,
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I always find it strange
when someone kills someone else in obvious calculated cold blood and still they deny murder.
(, Mon 9 Jul 2012, 17:58, Reply)
They should send him to a Saudi Prison, see how much Corrie he gets to watch then
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h3donist tryin' to play me out as if my name is Sega.., Mon 9 Jul 2012, 17:59,
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The key...
...to making use of people of this is context of environment. In a peaceful, civilised society they are a menace and a drain. In the context of minefield clearance however...
(, Mon 9 Jul 2012, 18:21, Reply)
