In the Dutch city I live, there are two very different types of "non-indigenous" population. The first, who I love, are those who move here and make a effort to fit in; adapting to local culture, integrating into the existing society. They're lovely.

The second would rather force society to adapt to them, which is why we have big areas of the city which look more like Turkey, than Holland; local Dutch are made to feel unwelcome there, and they cultivate a very confrontational attitude. This large subset of the immigrant population are the ones who drive the supporters of Wilders, and while he's a bit of a loony, I can understand why he gets the support he does. I'm an immigrant to the country myself; and I make the effort to fit in and don't expect the country to change to suit my own background.
(Katamarino, Mon 30 Aug 2010, 16:10, 2 replies)

Exactly Katamarino!
You sound like a good citizen. I would welcome you here.

My friend tried to start 'the games' this morning.
Three times I ignored her and changed the subject.
It's a start.
(OGH, Mon 30 Aug 2010, 17:06, closed)

OK, there are those who do this world wide
Be it US, UK, Oz, Holland, Spain, Ireland, UAE, India wherever. It's not just Muslims, Asians, Oriental, Jewish, African, Eastern European or any offensive name for these or any other group who congregate in communities together. There are always cunts, and cocks too - let's not be gender specific -in every walk of life.

Calling people derogatory offensive names because of their race or religion though is not the way to either broach or resolve this issue. Use the fact that you were privileged enough to grow up in a generally safe and caring community where you had exposure to education to your advantage.

Chavs on the other hand, why I oughta...
( @><|= w0nu!) or cunt to my friends, Tue 31 Aug 2010, 6:28, closed)