"Yes I want you to list AND APPLY those arguments.
Simply informing me there are some is absolute, utter tripe."

Of course you do, it's the only way you can save face, by getting me to list all the arguments I've ever come across against the existence of god (a good few years reading's worth) in the hope that you can pounce on one single flaw and go "AHA! I WIN!!!!!!!". Fuck off you silly little man, you've had a proof against any creator god (i.e. pretty much 99% of them ever postulated throughout history), if you want more proofs against gods whose existence is claimed but who aren't creator gods or you want more singular arguments against the various proposed deities like Yahweh, Al-Lah or Jesus then do what I did, go and look them up. Such singular arguments take second place to the one you were offered which are constructed against a multitude of deities and not just the one, anyway. This is exactly what I said above: here's one argument, if you want others look them up. Apologies if it's repeating myself but you seem too thick (basically you just can't fucking read you lazy cunt) to have taken it on board the first time. No doubt you'll try and spin this response into a win for you, despite it being totally unreasonable to expect someone to regurgitate several years worth of study at the behest of an internet mong.



"If not, I simply dismiss you with "Well there are very good arguments against your case. You lose. Next!" which I'm sure you'll agree is not really arguing at all."

Actually, this is a pretty decent summary of the dearth of arguments from you so far. Where, may I ask for not the first time, is your wondrous defence of agnosticism? Is it going to put in a show anytime soon? I mean, I've been good enough to provide arguments for you, you've ponied up Jack Shit son. The weight on your side of the scales seems to be missing entirely.

"But by all means - insult me in lieu of doing so."

Nah, I've provided you with arguments so it's hardly in lieu of anything. I will call you an ignorant little twat again though, that never gets old.

"It would appear very important that you at least have the last word, despite the fact no one's watching,"

Clearly someone is, someone who has pointed out it's you who has to have the last word. This is only to be expected, you're the one trying to save some face.
(Dildo Bugger destroyed a ring on, Wed 1 Sep 2010, 14:35, 1 reply)

Actually, I've jumped on to have a quick read n all
Can I just ask one question: what do you hope to achieve? What difference will it make if you manage to prove Vagabond wrong? It seems like the ultimate exercise in intellectual posturing to me. We get it, you have strongly held beliefs, a high regard of your own intellect, and no doubt love the sound of your own voice - beyond that, not much else substantial has been established. On either side.

By all means, feel free to turn your arguments on me, but I really don't care either way. What you believe makes no difference to me, and I don't know why you expect Vagabond to care either
(Godwin's Lawyer is more evil than Hitler, Wed 1 Sep 2010, 15:33, closed)

"Can I just ask one question: what do you hope to achieve?"

Very little, except perhaps one thing, that while Vagabond boasts he is smugly dismissive of fashionable views such as atheism, when questioned he clearly has no grounds.

Moreover, all he himself is doing is subscribing to a fashionable view. There have been, starting a few years ago now, various editorials by liberal intelligentsia in the papers all parrotting the viewpoint "that Richard Dawkins eh? he's as bad as those he rails against, him and Christopher Hitchens, atheism is just another religion". Vagabond seems to have absorbed this via whatever orifice he takes things in (he talks out of his arse so it's reasonable to assume his various openings are similarly misused) and is parrotting it here presumably in the hope that we're all impressed by how cool he is. Well, when questioned on his views he's just not very good at backing them up with reasoned argument. In fact, he looks like a dick. And as long as people reading his responses realise that he's a dick then my work here is done. Well, that, and being sure that deep in his heart he's not quite so cocksure about himself, means my work here is done. I couldn't care less if people perceive me as arrogant, that's not the point.

And clearly, he cares, despite you asking why I expect him to.
(Dildo Bugger destroyed a ring on, Wed 1 Sep 2010, 15:45, closed)

Then I guess my next question would be;
Why do you care? More specifically, why do you care so much? Did Vagabond kill your family, and this is your long-awaited revenge or something?
(Godwin's Lawyer is more evil than Hitler, Wed 1 Sep 2010, 15:48, closed)

"Then I guess my next question would be;
Why do you care? More specifically, why do you care so much? Did Vagabond kill your family, and this is your long-awaited revenge or something?"

Yes, Cairo in 1941, Vagabond gunned down my family in a dark alley because he was a field agent for the Gestapo.

Flippant answers aside, it just bugs the hell out of me to see someone parrotting mantras they've just been spoon-fed by the media without question in the assumption that they're right without ever having examined what they're saying. It especially bugs the hell out of me when it's coupled with hypocrisy, as in this instance. Vagabond hates people believing trendy things like atheism when all he's doing is repeating the crappy editorials of the Grauniad or the Telegraph.

Some people have a compulsion to correct the spelling and grammar of others online, some people like telling people to piss off to 4chan, I like to point out relativistic bullshit when I spot it. Each to their own.
(Dildo Bugger destroyed a ring on, Wed 1 Sep 2010, 15:58, closed)

I too like to point out bullshit, but I also have a real job as well.
Hence my short replies.

Some people you'll get nowhere with, though.

If you could point out someone who isn't a hypocrite that would be grand, ta.

Good work on the arrogant assumptions about my reading habits, personality, etc, by the way.

Pffft.

I love pointing and laughing at hypocrites like my shit doesn't stink.

Just like everyone else.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 1 Sep 2010, 16:09, closed)

"I too like to point out bullshit, but I also have a real job as well."

Well, I was made redundant myself so I have some time to kill. I refuse to apologise for it.

"Good work on the arrogant assumptions about my reading habits, personality, etc, by the way."

I admit, I may be wrong about your reading habits. Based on the evidence today, you don't read.
(Dildo Bugger destroyed a ring on, Wed 1 Sep 2010, 16:13, closed)

Hmm?

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 1 Sep 2010, 16:26, closed)