It took a disciplinary panel to make you realise that paki is a racist slur?
No wonder everyone thinks your sort are thick.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 13:36, 3 replies)

Aren't there a bunch of Pakistanis trying to reclaim "Paki" though, claiming it's only a contraction, like "Brit"?
MAybe I just dreamed it when I was high.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 13:59, closed)

Maybe, but it'll never work.
See: nigger.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:01, closed)

Well - "nigger"'s actively racist - claiming that all black people are from Nigeria (originally).
I imagine I'm wrong, though, so I'll just go with whatever popular opinion dictates.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:05, closed)

No, it's a derivation of the Spanish negro, meaning black.
Still actively racist though, as is paki.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:07, closed)

Yes - given to the River Niger.
Which appears black.

"Paki" is racist in historical context only, but is etymologically merely a contraction. Hence (so I understand) a group wanting to reclaim it.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:01, closed)

I'm not saying they shouldn't want to reclaim it, just that it won't work.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:26, closed)

It's grammatically wrong too.
"Pakistan" means "Land of the Paks" in Persian, so they should really be known as Paks.
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 18:15, closed)

I'm a little confused by the claim that
'nigger' is racist in a special way because it's an assertion that all black people come from a certain location. If that were the case, a conversation like this would make sense:

A: "Don't forget John, he's a nigger too."
B: "That's not true- he's from Uganda."

Right now, both 'nigger' and 'Paki' offend some people and communities for the exact same reason- they refer to a group (people with black skin, ethnically Pakistani people- or is it South Asian in general?) and they convey or assume negative sentiment about that group. It is totally unnecessary to know anything about the history of either word to be offended or not offended by it.

What it will take for either of them to not be offensive is probably exactly the same- for that negative sentiment to be bleached from the meaning of the word, which tends to happen when the social conditions that the word is used in change. Like 'paddy wagon', 'gyp', 'fag' (maybe on its way there), in American English. I'm not confident with Br. English examples, but I bet there are some good ones. :)
( the prick of misery pierced my foot on a spiiiike on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 18:31, closed)

Tell a Scot he's English and get back to me.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 9:01, closed)

Shut up Pykey!

(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Thu 23 Aug 2012, 6:20, closed)

I used to work with a guy
who referred to himself and his mates as Paki's but like the N bomb I doubt if I could have called him that even with his full consent
(sittingduck Attention seeking, bullshitting fuck-knuckle, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:34, closed)

http://www.b3ta.com/questions/footinmouthtwo/post1709995

(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 0:45, closed)

I've recently emigrated to New Zealand and people do use "The Paki's" more frequently here, especially
in sports context. I think it is a cultural thing. It's not right, but it's not considered as socially unacceptable down here. I can kind of see why, but still prefer not to use it myself.
( Pope Shax XIII uses Visio for picture editing, does it show?, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 1:08, closed)