They can be influential and still be shit.
See also: The Beatles.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Fri 16 Aug 2013, 7:18, 2 replies)

What people also forget to mention is that most of the bands they influenced were also utter shit.
It's like claiming Stalin was great because he inspired Mao and Castro.

Floyd must be great ... they gave us Rush and My Bloody Valentine. Yeah. Ta.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 16 Aug 2013, 9:21, closed)

Don't start on Rush, they're alright.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Fri 16 Aug 2013, 9:32, closed)

GASH, more like!!!!!!!

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 16 Aug 2013, 9:33, closed)

I was going to write Rush and Muse for double troll points.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 16 Aug 2013, 9:52, closed)

Muse are proper objectively shit though.
It's impossible to like them if you're older than 19, and at that age your opinion is worthless anyway.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Fri 16 Aug 2013, 11:20, closed)

And that's fucking stupid too.
The Beatles are objectively great by the same measure. So are U2 despite the fact that I can't stand them.

I'm not saying that things have to be popular to be great. Obscure and/or complex and difficult things can also be great, although even there I'd say there has to be some kind of consensus, even if it's only a consensus of critics and other experts. But 'The Beatles are shit' is just twattish.
( flatfrog Staring vacantly into space, Fri 16 Aug 2013, 12:22, closed)

I agree
Although I suspect most opinions written on here are just to get a rise out of people.

Family Guy did a good bit on people that slate off popular culture, where Brian said he hated Slumdog Millionaire and Titanic but defended the movie Cocktail. He's a "contrarian" rather than someone with a valid opinion. He thinks (incorrectly) that criticising these things makes him look like the most intelligent person in the room.

I thoroughly expect "Family Guy's shit too" to be the next witticism.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Fri 16 Aug 2013, 15:58, closed)

The more angry paragraphs you write on this the more you illustrate the problem.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 16 Aug 2013, 17:14, closed)