I'll admit
It's a vicious circle. Born into a family and environment where all you realistically expect is pregnancy and benefits, aspiration to something more is often just a fantasy. They don't choose to have such a bad start in life.

But successive governments hardly knock themselves out to break the cycle. You can't expect these people to pull themselves out of debt, look for better education and stand on their own feet. They never have and never will. You have to do it for them, or make it impossible for them to remain apathetic and irresponsible. It's like raising your own kids (or training a dog). You don't ask nicely - you tell them how it's going to be. No choices. Want to stay at home and do no work? Fine - do it without money and if you and your family starve to death. You can only blame yourselves.

If you can walk and have an IQ above 10, you can work in fucking Asda. For Christ's sake, there's a fucking paraplegic working in my local Asda - and there's a 19-year-old, able-bodied drug dealer living in my building who lives on benefits (and drug sales, obviously). Is the local council giving him a hard time? What are his excuses for not being able to find a job? There are people with no qualifications and no fucking English finding jobs every day. How hard can it be?
(frankspencer, Tue 18 Mar 2008, 17:22, Reply)