I rarely participate in QOTW
But I cannot click this harder. I happen to believe that our 65 year 'experiment' has gone pretty well (and survived more rabid tory governments than our own) and is now effectively a 'how to' for other countries who have followed in its footsteps. Not America though, because everyone's right to be given medical attention if necessary is somehow 'socialist'. I just find that weird, they never complained about education..
( Quiver Search for FATALISTS on Spotify, Amazon, Apple, &c, Mon 14 Oct 2013, 19:58, 2 replies)

Yes we do complain about education, actually.
And your model is falling apart and does not serve as template for the world, but do carry on. I wish you well. I really do.

Your premises are flawed and so too your conclusions. I don't care to get into it, but socialism it is by definition, and as such perversely unAmerican at its core. For America to adopt a model anything close to this, and it already has, is to change America into something else, and that's not altogether bad. I'm for it. But it is socialist. It means reaching deeply into your pockets to make economic decisions you already decided against. It's admitting you cannot handle your own affairs so rely on government to do it for you with the understanding you're being taken care of. It means sharing with people you don't like. It means sharing between generations. It means having your grandchildren pay for my services and my choices today. That's socialism.
( kombu dashi, Tue 15 Oct 2013, 23:42, closed)

It's a slippery slope down to seizing the means of production.
Just like in the UK, where we've steadily privatised all of our national industries. Truly, I am living in the workers' paradise, and so too will you, soon. All thanks to Obama and his socialist agenda.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 16 Oct 2013, 10:13, closed)