Enyzme
I lack your level of education, having failed my Masters at Birmingham Uni...this coincided with the advent of all-day opening, but still, at least I have heard of most of those names you mentioned.
What I mean is the desire for equality - so more Mary W. I imagine.
And I don't think what I was describing was "manners". It's the viewpoint of one sex that they have to dress / behave in a manner which is basically demeaning NOT empowering to attract a male mate. Males who seem neither to embody the ethos of the "best" sides of masculinity, i.e. being responsible and self-sacrificing and hard-working, or the "metrosexual" i.e. sensitive, caring and well-groomed.
Instead, modern males are generally drunk, overweight louts, and modern women underdressed "prostitute-lites".

And this is progress ?
( I_Was_Mordred, Thu 24 Apr 2008, 12:44, Reply)