Little Moments of Joy
Freddie Woo says: What has made you smile and made your day better recently? We need cheering up.
( , Thu 23 Jan 2014, 14:02)
Freddie Woo says: What has made you smile and made your day better recently? We need cheering up.
( , Thu 23 Jan 2014, 14:02)
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Can't you do better than that?
I'll tell you what, I'll give you another go just to be sporting. Remember to use your words.
( , Wed 29 Jan 2014, 14:03, 1 reply)
I'll tell you what, I'll give you another go just to be sporting. Remember to use your words.
( , Wed 29 Jan 2014, 14:03, 1 reply)
You've just made yourself appear very foolish.
If you manage to elevate yourself beyond responding to tone, I might bother to actually reply to you again, otherwise you can hoot your trap off.
( , Wed 29 Jan 2014, 14:21, closed)
If you manage to elevate yourself beyond responding to tone, I might bother to actually reply to you again, otherwise you can hoot your trap off.
( , Wed 29 Jan 2014, 14:21, closed)
luckily I'm a man with a lot of time on his hands. let me deconstruct what you consider an argument
"the difference is that the stories without kids are actually interesting." - this is a facile statement more indicative of your own twisted preferences (and i really don't want to know anything about your neuroses)than an analysis of storytelling quality
"Not even other parents; they're just pretending to give a shit" - this supposition only reveals to me that you either know little about being a parent (as you tend to become more interested in kids in general when you have kids, and better at relating to them), or you are anecdotally basing it on your small and obviously damaged social circle, or again this is just you projecting your child-hatred onto other people that your don't really understand
"All the parents involved secretly think that their kids are the best at everything, and that everyone elses kids are ugly little shits" -
It's true that the majority of parents OPENLY love their own children, and this love and attention is rewarded in the child's development and a lifetime's social bond, but this doesn't translate into hating other children as you do.
"Fact is, squeezing out another useless human is really easy to do ... the only thing you need is 9 months" - no, it isn't. conceiving, pregancy, and managing your lives up to and after the birth is one of the more difficult things you will undertake, and that's if everything goes without problems. fertility treatment, eclampsia, gestational diabetes, sciatica, managing your stalled career, testing for downs syndrome, new rooms and furniture. Your statement shows a juvenile understanding of a common yet very difficult adult experience.
"understand that they are genetically programmed to do exactly that" - no biologist would make a statement using language like this. We are complex animals with complex behaviours and social rituals who interact and respond to the environment, not a fucking java program with a printout. Statements like this are common in people with a passing yet inadequate understanding of evolutionary theory who think evolution is some goal orientated process rather than an emergent statistical phenomena. The fact that more woman than not are going childless demonstrates how wrong your supposition is.
"you've removed yourself from the pool of interesting humans, and you are now, by choice, in the mundane category of "parent of your own tedious little moment of joy". - the only thing that we've really established here is that you have a lot of poorly thought out opinions coupled with a disturbing hatred of parenthood. your inconsequential arguments seem like that of an overgrown child who rather than experiencing life and maturing, has let his repressed jealousy fester in impotent undeveloped rage.
I feel "blathering inanities" was all too accurate
( , Thu 30 Jan 2014, 11:37, closed)
"the difference is that the stories without kids are actually interesting." - this is a facile statement more indicative of your own twisted preferences (and i really don't want to know anything about your neuroses)than an analysis of storytelling quality
"Not even other parents; they're just pretending to give a shit" - this supposition only reveals to me that you either know little about being a parent (as you tend to become more interested in kids in general when you have kids, and better at relating to them), or you are anecdotally basing it on your small and obviously damaged social circle, or again this is just you projecting your child-hatred onto other people that your don't really understand
"All the parents involved secretly think that their kids are the best at everything, and that everyone elses kids are ugly little shits" -
It's true that the majority of parents OPENLY love their own children, and this love and attention is rewarded in the child's development and a lifetime's social bond, but this doesn't translate into hating other children as you do.
"Fact is, squeezing out another useless human is really easy to do ... the only thing you need is 9 months" - no, it isn't. conceiving, pregancy, and managing your lives up to and after the birth is one of the more difficult things you will undertake, and that's if everything goes without problems. fertility treatment, eclampsia, gestational diabetes, sciatica, managing your stalled career, testing for downs syndrome, new rooms and furniture. Your statement shows a juvenile understanding of a common yet very difficult adult experience.
"understand that they are genetically programmed to do exactly that" - no biologist would make a statement using language like this. We are complex animals with complex behaviours and social rituals who interact and respond to the environment, not a fucking java program with a printout. Statements like this are common in people with a passing yet inadequate understanding of evolutionary theory who think evolution is some goal orientated process rather than an emergent statistical phenomena. The fact that more woman than not are going childless demonstrates how wrong your supposition is.
"you've removed yourself from the pool of interesting humans, and you are now, by choice, in the mundane category of "parent of your own tedious little moment of joy". - the only thing that we've really established here is that you have a lot of poorly thought out opinions coupled with a disturbing hatred of parenthood. your inconsequential arguments seem like that of an overgrown child who rather than experiencing life and maturing, has let his repressed jealousy fester in impotent undeveloped rage.
I feel "blathering inanities" was all too accurate
( , Thu 30 Jan 2014, 11:37, closed)
So... (paragraph by paragraph)
1)...being disinterested in someone elses children is a "twisted preference"? How odd of you to think that.
2)..fair enough... I guess there are a lot of people with high tolerance for boredom, who are genuinely interested in other peoples kids stories. Pity the end result is a shed load of dull stories on qotw. I don't hate kids, btw... I've never said anything of the sort... I find parents pretty fucking tedious however, and I have no particular respect for people who adds to the overpopulation of this planet, then imagine that their little one is special and that they are deserving of some kind of special status because of it (which is a most parents, especially the ones that mention their kids a propos of nothing).
3) Again, you've assumed I hate children. No - I hate the parents who behave as if their average child is some kind of amazing thing, when it isn't. It's simply a normal child. Quite a lot of the problems in society today are caused by kids with such parents, who have no grown up to believe that they are somehow better than everyone else (when in fact they often under skilled and under educated, yet hugely entitled). The kinds of parents that go on and on about their kids, are the kind of parents that ruin their kids in this way.
4) Certainly, raising a kid WELL is difficult. Most people cannot do it. So, those that do manage to do it are deserving of at least some respect. But that respect is contingent on them actually doing it properly. Simply spawning a child is NOT difficult (and don't pretend it is).
5) Sure, I simplified, and sure, behaviour is not 100% deterministic based on evolved traits. But let us be fair, evolution through natural selection is entirely dependent on reproduction. Any gene which encourages procreation will have a strong positive selection applied, and any gene which discourages procreation will have strong negative selection pressure applied. It is absurd to try to suggest that the instinct to procreate is not an incredibly strong force that shapes the majority of human behaviour, just because some people are capable of overriding it... because most people are not capable.
6) Again you have fallen back on conjecture, casting baseless aspersion, without saying anything other than reiteration of your earlier opinions.
( , Thu 30 Jan 2014, 14:56, closed)
1)...being disinterested in someone elses children is a "twisted preference"? How odd of you to think that.
2)..fair enough... I guess there are a lot of people with high tolerance for boredom, who are genuinely interested in other peoples kids stories. Pity the end result is a shed load of dull stories on qotw. I don't hate kids, btw... I've never said anything of the sort... I find parents pretty fucking tedious however, and I have no particular respect for people who adds to the overpopulation of this planet, then imagine that their little one is special and that they are deserving of some kind of special status because of it (which is a most parents, especially the ones that mention their kids a propos of nothing).
3) Again, you've assumed I hate children. No - I hate the parents who behave as if their average child is some kind of amazing thing, when it isn't. It's simply a normal child. Quite a lot of the problems in society today are caused by kids with such parents, who have no grown up to believe that they are somehow better than everyone else (when in fact they often under skilled and under educated, yet hugely entitled). The kinds of parents that go on and on about their kids, are the kind of parents that ruin their kids in this way.
4) Certainly, raising a kid WELL is difficult. Most people cannot do it. So, those that do manage to do it are deserving of at least some respect. But that respect is contingent on them actually doing it properly. Simply spawning a child is NOT difficult (and don't pretend it is).
5) Sure, I simplified, and sure, behaviour is not 100% deterministic based on evolved traits. But let us be fair, evolution through natural selection is entirely dependent on reproduction. Any gene which encourages procreation will have a strong positive selection applied, and any gene which discourages procreation will have strong negative selection pressure applied. It is absurd to try to suggest that the instinct to procreate is not an incredibly strong force that shapes the majority of human behaviour, just because some people are capable of overriding it... because most people are not capable.
6) Again you have fallen back on conjecture, casting baseless aspersion, without saying anything other than reiteration of your earlier opinions.
( , Thu 30 Jan 2014, 14:56, closed)
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