I've spent a fair amount of time living in East and South London
and now Edinburgh, and spent plenty of time in South Wales . I can categorically state that football fans do, in general, absolutely do that. All the time. Being caught in the middle of a a few hundred Cardiff and Swansea fans going at it is not an experience that I wish to repeat. Or being anywhere near Millwall. Or being on a train in Southern Germany when 1860 fans stormed it to get at Bayern fans. Or running battles in Rome after a Roma/Lazio game. Or anywhere I've been in Eastern Europe, really.

So, yeah, I agree that I won't condone either but in my experience football generates a whole heap higher level of cunt. I know your experince differs of course, I'm just saying why my feelings about it are so strong.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 15:42, Reply)