The 40 million a day is what we pay into the EU
well, it's about 37 million a day.

We also gain from the EU, in terms of subsidies, to the tune of about 25-30 million a day. They conveniently forget that. I think the "net loss" to the EU is about 10 million a day. For which we get free trade, easier border control, an a million and one business advantages (glossing over a degree financial protection, human rights laws and all the "non-business jazz")
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 17 Apr 2013, 10:36, 3 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

And the fact we can negotiate really unfair trade deals with the third world

(PsychoChomp, Wed 17 Apr 2013, 10:37, Reply)

I'd go as far as to say that they don't conveniently forget it at all, but are playing on the ignorance of the voting public
in the hopes a big number will get middle England frothing at the mouth.
( Kroney, Wed 17 Apr 2013, 10:38, Reply)

yes.
but "conveniently forget" has fewer letters and I'm afraid of a Brokn Britn keyboard tax.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 17 Apr 2013, 10:39, Reply)

I think there's a lot to be said for a serious re-examination of what we spend and what for
but I don't think any intellectually serious person can doubt the benefits of EU membership. I am glad we're not part of the single currency, though.
( Kroney, Wed 17 Apr 2013, 10:41, Reply)

It's my own personal suspicion as well that if we were to pull out, then anyone exporting to the EU would still have to jump through all the red tape hoops..
...whilst making it more difficult for their counterparts to do business with THEM as they'd have to adapt to any new regs we might bring in.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Wed 17 Apr 2013, 10:41, Reply)

Of course.
I also love the idea that being out of the EU would make it easier for "the man in the street" because there wouldn't be all these "tedious regulations blah blah blah"

Yeah. Like the US. Where there are no laws at all and no regulations of manufacturing, sale of goods, etc. Obviously.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 17 Apr 2013, 10:44, Reply)